New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[SteamyAmerican]

If her car struck the officer with force, why did he not drop the phone with which he was filming or the gun in his other hand. Why did he walk away with a normal gait and no sign of injury. Why do none of the videos show the moment when he was struck?

The 2nd and 3rd shots, that killed her, were fired through the open side window of the car when the officer was clearly not in front of the car or in the path of the car.

We may never know.

But when you hire from prisons and the IDF, and then of course you have the videos come out of their “pep talks” before raids?

Yeah.

Coupled with rabid protesting, there’s gonna be more of this sadly.

[tellmethesecrets]

They're trying to make her the next drug dealer Floyd-whatever.

Just a reason to riot.

And so people can get free tv's and cell phones and leftists will say, "They are voicing their opinion"

I'm only on page 14 of this thread and have also been thinking "this is frustratingly just like the Floyd case & causing similar disagreements between people, I wonder how long until the riots start" - glad I'm not the only one that thought it!!!

[putnam6]

If her car struck the officer with force, why did he not drop the phone with which he was filming or the gun in his other hand. Why did he walk away with a normal gait and no sign of injury. Why do none of the videos show the moment when he was struck?

The 2nd and 3rd shots, that killed her, were fired through the open side window of the car when the officer was clearly not in front of the car or in the path of the car.

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There's a video showing the ICE agent getting hit #1 BECAUSE once it was shown, CNN went from she wasnt moving and didn't hit him, to she was turning away and didn't mean to hit him. 

I could be wrong and Im completely speculating BUT SO IS EVERYBODY ON THE THREAD no matter how cocksure we think or sound. 

The video Ive seen shows his face in a split second.  He could have drawn his weapon with his right hand while holding the cell in his left, as he was hit, the image drops, spins, and there's a flip where it shows his face for split second. 

And while we may argue the evidence when and if it's presented, Investigators will know which shot was the kill shot, based on trajectories, angles, and blood splatter. 

Im thinking it was shot number one through the front windshield. Blood splatter was seen on the back headrest it was not smeared like she was shot, fell forward jammed the gas. Ross shot again because she was seemingly speeding away.
 
If there were a shot from the side, that was a headshot; blood splatter would be in a different place. There's clearer pictures out there but if this is a true representation, the kill shot was highly likely from the front and was the first shot. Ross crouched over and aiming, could line up with the bullet hole in the windshield

Even in this image, the headrest looks rather blood-soaked, consistent with a front headshot. A side shot would have likely made the passenger's side a mess, and we don't see that in the second image; the passenger side is seemingly blood-free

[UltraBudgie]

was that a body cam video or was he holding a cell phone

[tellmethesecrets]

I'm considerably late to the discussion, still reading through and currently at pg 33.

Here's my hot take so far:

Good was an idiotic, irresponsible mother for putting herself in that position.  Attempting to drive away after being ordered to stop...with a gun pointing at you... is just plain stupid.  Did she panic?  Did she think she was invincible?  Either way, those earlier decisions she made resulted in this tragic outcome.

Did she deserve to be shot dead?  No.  It's just the unfortunate result of a risk she was willing to take.

The police officer.... should he have shot her dead?  From the facts surrounding the immediate area of the incident no, he was probably not in any real danger as a) he could've moved and b) the vehicle probably couldn't speed up fast enough to cause harm....HOWEVER, could he have been certain she wouldn't have increased speed and ploughed into others?

I also saw an officer touching the car door handle/trying to enter the vehicle, so another risk the officer could've been pre-empting is one of his colleague(s) being injured/killed by being dragged by the car - this has happened a couple of times here in the UK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Andrew_Harper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ged_Walker

[ANNEE]

Yes — she was an idiot. 

But the shooting was completely unnecessary. 

He was trained — she wasn’t.

[PorkChop96]

Yes — she was an idiot. 

But the shooting was completely unnecessary. 

He was trained — she wasn’t.

You are correct, he was trained, to eliminate lethal threats towards him and his fellow officers, he did just that.  Her being their was completely unnecessary, but planned by her and others to interfere with federal agents and their duties.  

I'm sure you ignore the context that, not 6 months ago, that agent was drug over 300 feet by an illegal he was trying to arrest that was also fleeing from federal agents. 

If someone slaps you in the face, would you not immediately think that you are going to get slapped in the face again if someone raises their hand to you in the same manner? He reacted as officers are trained to when someone attempts to run them over with a vehicle.

[putnam6]

Im going to have to see alot more on if and how much they were involved in hyper activism. Need specifics, not generalizations. Big difference between casual activists and 24/7 One Battle after Another. Much comes down to the Minnesota LE's lack of cooperation, 

As always, I highly recommend looking at this and other topics and issues through Ground.news shows fairly and honestly how all sides are covering a story



https://ground.news/article/protesters-c...-minnesota
 

 

Vigilant Fox 

@VigilantFox
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CNN panelist gets blindsided with facts after insisting the woman shot by ICE could have happened to “anyone else.”

Julie Roginsky’s frustration was impossible to miss as her argument unraveled in real time.

ROGINSKY: “I think this is a moment where people realized that this could be them, that they could be driving their kid to school… and all of a sudden you’re dead.”

NOAH ROTHMAN: “It was not a murder. It’s not malice aforethought. Nothing has been proven in court.”

ROGINSKY: “He called her an effing you know what.”

ROTHMAN: “We do not in this country adjudicate issues like this based on fragmentary evidence in the court of public opinion.”

ROGINSKY: “He adjudicated it by executing her!”

ROTHMAN: “And it could not happen to anybody else… There is a network of activists who put people in very dangerous situations. They train them to confront law enforcement in the course of their duties, and they put themselves in danger in the process. So no. I would not be in that situation.”

[quintessentone]

Well, I prefer the spirit of the law. And dont think all cases should be pursued to fill quotas. 

Like a person that came here illegally 15 years ago and that was the only law they ever broke. That has since built a life in OUR community. Made it THEIRS too.  Sure, they might hire others like them at their short-order Mexican food stand, but I dont think it has a negative collateral effect when they're employed. 

I think the letter of the law is being heartless here, and dont give a damn about its appeal to authority and "law enforcement." 

Its always...

"You dont support the enforcement of law"

To which i say. "HELL TO THE F'ING NO." 

Why should I?  

I have avoided quite a few speeding tickets in my life by sobbing on demand and saying, "I didn't need this right now, I'm so sorry... just a terrible day I am having, and now it's that much worse."

The letter of the law says i was pulled over doing 89 in a 70. 

The CHP officers spirit of law lets me go.

But yeah "country of laws."

An infraction  was committed by driving 19 MPH over the posted limit too.  

What about the time I was clocked at 97 and they wrote me up for 84?  Was that enforcement of law? 

It was by San Onofre. Posted 70. Definitely criminal speeding reduced to the minimum citation on the spot. 

Maybe its because I'm white and privileged? Because a vato in a lowrider Impala probably isn't getting a 2 minute talking to like me... Maybe searched?  

Its almost like only white people that dont carry a defacto suspicion get the spirit of the law sometimes.. or at least traditionally.

But then again... Traditionally "illegals" (whose only crime was crossing illegally) didn't get screwed with when they've been here a decade. There was still a some "grandfather clause" ideology.

Did you take your directions for 'not obeying the law' from Trump and his sycophants?

[putnam6]

was that a body cam video or was he holding a cell phone

It was supposedly Ross's cell phone earlier I had speculated it was body cam footage.

So far all that has been seen is cell phone footage of Ross's walk around if there is body cam footage, I haven't found it released publicly

Regardless its been posted in thread...