New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[WallFlowerActive]

Being a US citizen, she was not an authorized target of an ICE enforcement operation, up with.

When she willfully pulled in front of an ICE vehicle to impede their progress and interfere in their duties, she broke the law.  She opened herself up for being apprehended.

When she failed to comply with lawful orders, she opened herself up to being apprehended.

The agents had every right to surround her car to assess the situation, and try to figure out why she was interfering with their duties.

When Good accelerated into the ICE agents, she weaponized her SUV making the ICE agents obligated to defend themselves.  

It’s a sad situation.  But when Good went from being a legal observer to being an illegal roadblock in the context of willfully impeding and interfering with federal agents, she out herself in jeopardy.

[FlyersFan]

There is a test question ...

blah blah deflection blah blah

You said it was illegal for the LEO to be there.
It was not.
He was engaged in arresting a woman who was breaking the law.
(and had been breaking the law all day)
He was allowed to be there as part of his job.
You fail.

[quintessentone]

Use of force experts' take on it:

"Legal experts said most departments train officers to refrain from shooting at a moving vehicle, in part because of the danger such action could pose to officers and others in the surrounding area if the driver was incapacitated.
 “Most police departments in the country — including Hennepin County — have policies that prohibit officers from firing at moving vehicles,” Gross said. “There are very few narrow exceptions to that rule.”
 
In many jurisdictions, experts said, the vehicle itself would not be considered a weapon unless someone is using it in a mass casualty event, such as driving a truck into a crowd of people.
 
Dennis Kenney, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, said such rules proliferated because shooting at a moving car doesn’t stop the car and often forces the driver to lose control of the vehicle.
 
That’s what happened this week in Minneapolis, Kenney noted. Good’s car continued moving forward and struck at least one other vehicle. Experts said the car could have easily hit a bystander."

We talked to 5 use-of-force experts. This is what they say about the Minneapolis ICE shooting.

Conclusion: "Four of the experts who spoke to the Star Tribune had seen videos that documented the encounter. None of the experts said the available evidence proved the shooting was justified."

[FlyersFan]

When she failed to comply with lawful orders, she opened herself up to being apprehended.

The instant the law enforcement told her to get out of the car she was legally detained.
That's the law.   It was explained on TV news by law enforcement.
She broke the law all day obstructing law enforcement.
She broke the law the second she drove off after being detained.
She was a terrible example for her children.
And so is the 'wife' who said 'drive baby drive' telling her to break the law some more.
She caused her own situation.

[WallFlowerActive]

Remember when the little bytches on the right were crying about Charlie (Dumb ****) Kirk and when was shot and going "your side is celebrating his death wah wah wah"

Now here they are celebrating the death of this woman.

I don’t see anyone on this site celebrating.  Everyone seems to agree this is sad even if Good put herself in this situation.  

What I do see.  The same people on the left that claimed that Ashli Babbit got what she deserved on Jan 6 because stupid people get stupid prizes where the officer shoot her and was justified because he felt threaten are now being hypocrites in this Good / ICE situation.  

There is a difference though.  Babbit was unarmed.  Good accelerated at agents in what is nearly a 2 ton tank compared to agents on foot.  Added.  I know a good many death are accidents, but vehicles kill about 40,000 a year in the US.

[WallFlowerActive]

Use of force experts' take on it:

"Legal experts said most departments train officers to refrain from shooting at a moving vehicle,

It’s different for a traffic stop for lack of a better term where Good turned her SUV into a weapon by trying to accelerate through agents to avoid apprehension.  Her actions turned her car into a potential weapon of mass destruction. If the agents felt threatened, then past cases show they are justified.  

The UK guys kept bringing up the UK.  Why this was cited.  

UK Police Officer Cleared Of Murder After Black Man Shot Dead

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 Blake shot Kaba through the front windscreen of an Audi Q8 car, which had been used as a getaway vehicle in a shooting the previous evening.
It had been blocked by other police vehicles when it was identified and the court was told that Kaba tried to ram his way free.
Blake told jurors he opened fire to stop the car, as he feared one of his colleagues could be killed.

[quintessentone]

It’s different for a traffic stop for lack of a better term where Good turned her SUV into a weapon by trying to accelerate through agents to avoid apprehension.  Her actions turned her car into a potential weapon of mass destruction. If the agents felt threatened, then past cases show they are justified.  

The UK guys kept bringing up the UK.  Why this was cited.  

That's the narrative Trump and his sycophants were pushing before any investigation and so you are too.

Does it really matter at this point when Trump basically said ICE and your National Guard can act with impunity and just murder people at their blood lustful pleasure, without accountability?

Your streets are now belong to them, 1984 style and 1933 style.

[andy06shake]

[David64]

Tell ya what...For all you saying this was not assault with a deadly weapon, try doing this to someone and see what you get charged with.

[FlyersFan]

Trump basically said ICE and your National Guard can act with impunity and just murder people at their blood lustful pleasure, without accountability?

You are always so ridiculous.
The loaded language is comical.
No one can take you seriously.
I'm sure you will attempt to justify these words.
But it won't work.   It never does.