New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[Vermilion]

Again, your courts will decide his fate based on the evidence against the officer.

But i think it will work for him just as well as it did for the likes of Derek Chauvin in the end.

Authority isn't unlimited.

And deadly force requires an imminatnt unavoidable threat.

The law says Police officers must avoid creating threats towards themselves.

And standing in front of a car with a drawn weapon, and then claiming the car is a weapon, is not going to cut the proverbial mustard in court. 

A vehicle fleeing isn't automatically lethal force.

Just circles now....

It’s not going to go to a criminal court.
It will, however, wind up in family court when the family of that child tries to get custody from that wicked wife.

[KrustyKrab]

 
Sigh, ignoring a command while trying to flee is not the same as attempting homicide.

Your DOJ policy is explicit on the matter.

Police officers should not stand in front of vehicles.

Because doing so creates an "officer-generated jeopardy."

Which simply undermines the silly claims of deadly force.

If the ICE officer chose to remain in front of her car, with a gun drawn, that was his tactical decision, not hers.

The video shows movement, not motive.

And lawful commands do not magically convert poor police positioning into justified killings.

Again, a court of law will decide the man's fate and the right or wrong of the matter in question.

Let's see how that one works out, given the witness statements and abundant video evidence.

Here’s what AI says which matches everything I’ve read.

“Yes, a law enforcement agent may shoot at a vehicle if they reasonably believe that the vehicle poses an imminent threat of death or serious injury to themselves or others.”

[andy06shake]

It’s not going to go to a criminal court.
It will, however, wind up in family court when the family of that child tries to get custody from that wicked wife.

We will see. 

But i think it may be rather soon to be making those kinds of assumptions.

[RazorV66]

No, it not, if you placed yourself in the position.

Which the socalled ICE officer chose to do.

More circles, not law...

You are automatically assuming he will be charged with a crime.

[andy06shake]

Here’s what AI says which matches everything I’ve read.

“Yes, a law enforcement agent may shoot at a vehicle if they reasonably believe that the vehicle poses an imminent threat of death or serious injury to themselves or others.”

I don't think the AI works in a court of law Krusty.

Or gets to make those sorts of decisions.

People on the other hand...

What he "reasonably believed" is not the same as what can be proven given the evidence and witness statements.

[andy06shake]

You are automatically assuming he will be charged with a crime.

I certainly hope thats the case given what he did. 

But that's for your laws and courts to decide. 

Ive said that a few times now....

I mean i suppose accountability isn't guaranteed.

But an investigation is warranted and underway.

And it will be really hard for the FBI to sweep this one under the proverbial carpet imho.

[DontTreadOnMe]

Can someone really be considered a 'legal observer' when 
they are breaking the law the whole time they are supposedly
just observing?   I think not.

I'm guessing it is a title/job found in some manual for protesters they are following.
I doubt it is a title anyone but the protesters will acknowledge.

Maybe even this manual...

[DontTreadOnMe]

I think that will be for your courts to decide.

But again, if the woman was driving away, and merely trying to leave, which is how it appears, then firing at her does not meet your Police policy standards.

I've heard that once she was told to exit the vehicle, she no longer could leave as it became a police situation.
Maybe some LEO here would have to clarify if that is a fact.

[andy06shake]

I've heard that once she was told to exit the vehicle, she no longer could leave as it became a police situation.
Maybe some LEO here would have to clarify if that is a fact.

The Minnesota investigative bureau has been removed from active access to the evidence.

Which appears to have pis@ed off the local prosecutors.

It's all in the hands of the FBI now or so it seems.

Time, and hopefully the evidence will tell...

[ANNEE]

I think this could fall under excessive force.

Excessive force is a legal term that refers to the use of more physical force than is reasonably necessary to perform a law enforcement action or to maintain public safety. It occurs when an officer's actions are not reasonably necessary to achieve legitimate law enforcement goals, which may include indicators like excessive pain or humiliation. Police officers may be held liable for using excessive force during arrests or other seizures. In general, excessive force is often associated with police brutality, where the force used exceeds the minimum amount necessary to diffuse a situation