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01-09-2026, 06:21 PM
This post was last modified: 01-09-2026, 06:24 PM by KrustyKrab. 
(01-09-2026, 05:56 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I hardly see what you find funny about the entire affair.
"Video doesn't lie" is a slogan, not an analysis Krusty.
Turning the steering wheel while boxed in or panicking is not the same as deliberately using a car as a deadly weapon.
And your own "Department of Justice" policy explicitly states "officers should move out of a vehicle's path and that placing oneself in front of a car creates officer-generated jeopardy."
Seems to me that standing directly in front of a vehicle, and then to the side, with a gun drawn, then claiming deadly force was unavoidable, contradicts that policy.
Again i'm sure your courts, combined with the witness statements, and multiple sources of video evidence, will establish who was in the wrong and/or who should be held to account or prosecuted.
I find your post funny , not what happened to her. But you keep trying to rewrite history. She ran into/over him with gun drawn in front of her and Leo’s telling her to stop and exit the vehicle. She ignored a lawful command and drove into him trying to leave. Twist it how you want if it makes you sleep better at night but most of us are capable of seeing exactly what happened.
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Deny Ignorance's ![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/dtbxULX8wvobUJGcGz/giphy.gif) watching the new ICE agent's body cam video
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(01-09-2026, 06:21 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: I find your post funny , not what happened to her. But you keep trying to rewrite history. She ran into/over him with him, gun drawn in front of her and Leo’s telling her to stop and exit the vehicle. She ignored a lawful command and drove into him trying to leave. Twist it how you want if it makes you sleep better at night but most of us are capable of seeing exactly what happened.
Sigh, ignoring a command while trying to flee is not the same as attempting homicide.
Your DOJ policy is explicit on the matter.
Police officers should not stand in front of vehicles.
Because doing so creates an "officer-generated jeopardy."
Which simply undermines the silly claims of deadly force.
If the ICE officer chose to remain in front of her car, with a gun drawn, that was his tactical decision, not hers.
The video shows movement, not motive.
And lawful commands do not magically convert poor police positioning into justified killings.
Again, a court of law will decide the man's fate and the right or wrong of the matter in question.
Let's see how that one works out, given the witness statements and abundant video evidence.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(01-09-2026, 03:32 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Is the US turning into Iran?
Protests will be met with lethal force?
They have a history of it in the USA:
List of incidents and protests of the United States racial unrest
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(01-09-2026, 05:56 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Seems to me that standing directly in front of a vehicle, and then to the side, with a gun drawn, then claiming deadly force was unavoidable, contradicts that policy.
He has full authority to stop someone with lethal force that’s threatening harm to himself or others. A car is considered a lethal weapon here in the states, he neutralized the threat. What do you have a problem with?
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01-09-2026, 06:45 PM
This post was last modified: 01-09-2026, 06:46 PM by Vermilion. 
Her wife’s lawyer will use the “she was a poet and a mom so she can’t be accountable for anything” defense.
Bonus poems:
Renee's Poem
There once was a gal named Renee,
Who wouldn't get out of the way,
She stopped taking her meds,
And went after the feds, Which effectively ended her day.
…
Renee was a poet beloved,
.. with her car, an officer shoved.
She tried to evade,
... the popo blockade,
But sadly her day,
... went oddly astray,
... as ground she's not now above.
So when you're in doubt,
.. try not to find out.
As that can ported,
... a curious end,
And make the media shout.
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(01-09-2026, 06:33 PM)andy06shake Wrote:
Sigh, ignoring a command while trying to flee is not the same as attempting homicide.
It is when that person is running or trying to run people over. Sighhh
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(01-09-2026, 06:43 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: He has full authority to stop someone with lethal force that’s threatening harm to himself or others. A car is considered a lethal weapon here in the states, he neutralized the threat. What do you have a problem with?
Again, your courts will decide his fate based on the evidence against the officer.
But i think it will work for him just as well as it did for the likes of Derek Chauvin in the end.
Authority isn't unlimited.
And deadly force requires an imminent, unavoidable threat.
The law says Police officers must avoid creating threats towards themselves.
And standing in front of a car with a drawn weapon, and then claiming the car is a weapon, is not going to cut the proverbial mustard in court.
A vehicle fleeing isn't automatically lethal force.
Just circles now....
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(01-09-2026, 06:47 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: It is when that person is running or trying to run people over. Sighhh
No, it not, if you placed yourself in the position.
Which the socalled ICE officer chose to do.
More circles, not law...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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