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Just a week or so ago Trump suggested the US would take over Gaza, and the left and the world freaked out a little bit
in other news ...
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When Trump suggested it I was pissed off.
I don't want one American penny spent on that hole.
The so called Palestinians would just blow it up and try to kill people.
Total waste of money.
But then I saw that within a few days of making what looked like a serious suggestion that we take over Gaza and kick out the "Palestinians" ... suddenly Egypt comes up with a plan for EGYPT to take over reconstruction and for the "Palestinians" to stay where they are in Gaza with Egypt taking control of security.
So by Trump suggesting the ridiculous notion of kicking out the Palestinians and us taking over .. he really just kicked the Muslim countries in the butt and made them come forward to take control and pay for it and get the job done. Won't cost us a penny, and it will be Muslims trying to control Muslims instead of Jews or Christians doing it.
Previous to his threat to take over Gaza, the Muslim countries were refusing to get off their asses and do the job. Look at them now!
It was brilliant. I didn't see it coming. Well played.
make russia small again
Don't be a useful idiot. Deny Ignorance.
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(02-14-2025, 04:23 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: When Trump suggested it I was pissed off.
I don't want one American penny spent on that hole.
The so called Palestinians would just blow it up and try to kill people.
Total waste of money.
But then I saw that within a few days of making what looked like a serious suggestion that we take over Gaza and kick out the "Palestinians" ... suddenly Egypt comes up with a plan for EGYPT to take over reconstruction and for the "Palestinians" to stay where they are in Gaza with Egypt taking control of security.
So by Trump suggesting the ridiculous notion of kicking out the Palestinians and us taking over .. he really just kicked the Muslim countries in the butt and made them come forward to take control and pay for it and get the job done. Won't cost us a penny, and it will be Muslims trying to control Muslims instead of Jews or Christians doing it.
Previous to his threat to take over Gaza, the Muslim countries were refusing to get off their asses and do the job. Look at them now!
It was brilliant. I didn't see it coming. Well played.
I certainly was saying WTH when I first heard it myself but reading the comments on X.com, a few mentioned this was a classic Trump negotiations tactic. It made sense, now hopefully the arab world will deal with Hamas and take over security and government and give those caught up in this a chance at a different life., let's see what happens.
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(02-14-2025, 02:48 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Just a week or so ago Trump suggested the US would take over Gaza, and the left and the world freaked out a little bit
in other news ...
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Even if they are able to sideline Hamas with a deal because the Palestinian people want it, they still have the Iranian, Hezbollah and the Houthis to deal with because it looks to me like it's gone too far at this point in time.
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(03-25-2025, 08:11 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Even if they are able to sideline Hamas with a deal because the Palestinian people want it, they still have the Iranian, Hezbollah and the Houthis to deal with because it looks to me like it's gone too far at this point in time.
Yep
Feels to me Iran will be leashed in by Russia at least temporarily, based on the Ukrainian peace talks. Russia can not afford to lose Iran as its sphere of influence shrinks in the region, but all of that may be by design as they pivot preparing troops weapons, and munitions from one theater to another.
Here's the weird part for me, Ive always been a war/conflict news junkie we got so much news coverage from Vietnam, and the Gulf Wars were must-watch TV on CNN. It is totally different now, the US targets Yemen for days straight and we get bupkis. By design
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(03-26-2025, 04:17 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Yep
Feels to me Iran will be leashed in by Russia at least temporarily, based on the Ukrainian peace talks. Russia can not afford to lose Iran as its sphere of influence shrinks in the region, but all of that may be by design as they pivot preparing troops weapons, and munitions from one theater to another.
Here's the weird part for me, Ive always been a war/conflict news junkie we got so much news coverage from Vietnam, and the Gulf Wars were must-watch TV on CNN. It is totally different now, the US targets Yemen for days straight and we get bupkis. By design
You should start looking for independent news from journalists in the thick of it.
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-trac.../war-yemen
It looks like a sad situation for the people of Yemen, perhaps another Gaza in the making? The Saudis are involved as is Iran, and little progress has been made thus far.
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(03-26-2025, 08:35 AM)quintessentone Wrote: You should start looking for independent news from journalists in the thick of it.
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-trac.../war-yemen
It looks like a sad situation for the people of Yemen, perhaps another Gaza in the making? The Saudis are involved as is Iran, and little progress has been made thus far.
The Council on Foreign Relations may be independent but it leans just a teeny tiny itsy bit left... just saying
I'm also aware that the Saudis were/are involved in Yemen still there is no justification for the attacks in international waters nor lobbing missiles at Israel again just saying
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LEAST BIASEDThese sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appealing to emotion or stereotypes). The reporting is factual and usually sourced. These are the most credible media sources. See all Least Biased Sources.- Overall, we rate the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Least Biased based on balanced story selection; however, editorial positions slightly lean left but still fall within least biased. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information, a clean fact check record, and being a resource for IFCN fact-checkers.
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(03-26-2025, 08:55 AM)putnam6 Wrote: The Council on Foreign Relations may be independent but it leans just a teeny tiny itsy bit left... just saying
I'm also aware that the Saudis were/are involved in Yemen still there is no justification for the attacks in international waters nor lobbing missiles at Israel again just saying
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LEAST BIASEDThese sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appealing to emotion or stereotypes). The reporting is factual and usually sourced. These are the most credible media sources. See all Least Biased Sources.- Overall, we rate the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Least Biased based on balanced story selection; however, editorial positions slightly lean left but still fall within least biased. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information, a clean fact check record, and being a resource for IFCN fact-checkers.
Detailed ReportBias Rating: LEAST BIASED (0.9)
Factual Reporting: HIGH (1.0)
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
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So are you admitting that a slightly left leaning source has high credibility?
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(03-26-2025, 09:15 AM)quintessentone Wrote: So are you admitting that a slightly left leaning source has high credibility?
LOL don't be so sensitive, I was on Media Bias about another post, wanted to see how they rated out.
I was ONLY checking because somebody got pissy for me using X.com sources suggesting they were right-biased
like Maxmars suggested every site has its biases and slant regardless
but let's not pretend CFR.org doesn't have Democrat ties and objectives
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