Isreal launches strikes on Iran

[FreakieFlyer]

The B-2s left Diego Garcia a long time ago, and were replaced by B-52s that aren't certified for the GBU-57. There's no evidence of B-2s flying missions out of CONUS, which they'd have to do if they were hitting Iran.

Well that settles that.  I did some stuff at Anderson back in February, but I’m sure what was there then has since rotated back out and I was in Kadena two months ago.  Thanks for the insights.

As a side note:  I’ve followed your insights and expertise for many years as a long-time lurker on ATS.  It’s cool to be actively engaging in conversations now.

[MansizedSquirrel]

Well that settles that.  I did some stuff at Anderson back in February, but I’m sure what was there then has since rotated back out and I was in Kadena two months ago.  Thanks for the insights.

As a side note:  I’ve followed your insights and expertise for many years as a long-time lurker on ATS.  It’s cool to be actively engaging in conversations now.

He doesn’t sign autographs, I already asked. 

[Mantiss2021]

So the gist of the situation, as I understand it, is that the US doesn't need to get directly involved in this itself by sending bombing missions to Iran.

Trump says he has not yet decided whether to attack Iran or not:  "Maybe I will. Maybe I won't. Nobody knows what I will do."  (I get it, but geez, he could have said it in a way that sounded less like a lunatic!)


This means, again, as I understand it, that if the US does go ahead and launches its own assault on Iran, 

It will be solely because the President decided that he wanted to do it, rather than because he had to do it?

[Zaphod58]

Well that settles that.  I did some stuff at Anderson back in February, but I’m sure what was there then has since rotated back out and I was in Kadena two months ago.  Thanks for the insights.

As a side note:  I’ve followed your insights and expertise for many years as a long-time lurker on ATS.  It’s cool to be actively engaging in conversations now.

There were B-1s at Misawa flying with stuff out of Japan and Kadena, but I believe they rotated home. It was their first BTF to Japan. There is some evidence of preparing for a CONUS-CONUS bomber mission building tonight, but I haven't heard any chatter yet.

[FreakieFlyer]

There were B-1s at Misawa flying with stuff out of Japan and Kadena, but I believe they rotated home. It was their first BTF to Japan. There is some evidence of preparing for a CONUS-CONUS bomber mission building tonight, but I haven't heard any chatter yet.

Interesting.  I haven’t been to Misawa since mid-last year sometime so I wouldn’t have anything to add to the goings-on there.  Any idea if those B-1’s were from Dyess or Ellsworth?  When I was in Kadena back in April, there was a MASSIVE exercise taking place.

[CriticalStinker]

So the gist of the situation, as I understand it, is that the US doesn't need to get directly involved in this itself by sending bombing missions to Iran.

Trump says he has not yet decided whether to attack Iran or not:  "Maybe I will. Maybe I won't. Nobody knows what I will do."  (I get it, but geez, he could have said it in a way that sounded less like a lunatic!)


This means, again, as I understand it, that if the US does go ahead and launches its own assault on Iran, 

It will be solely because the President decided that he wanted to do it, rather than because he had to do it?

That's the world we live in. Every admin has been clawing more executive power, and slowly consolidating it.

So yes, that's Trump's decision now. Congress ultimately has the power to declare war, but the President gets a time period to conduct operations before that. That said, we don't even declare war anymore, so it's kind of a moot point unless Congress really digs in against the decision.

This is a common theme, there have been a lot of actions taken by this, and previous administrations that are absolutely outside their scope of power. The problem is that partisans will defend it, and ultimately opponents play soft ball because they don't want to hurt their own future power. 

This isn't 2003, we didn't just have a major terrorist attack in the US. The public support isn't here, but that doesn't matter at all.

[Zaphod58]

Interesting.  I haven’t been to Misawa since mid-last year sometime so I wouldn’t have anything to add to the goings-on there.  Any idea if those B-1’s were from Dyess or Ellsworth?  When I was in Kadena back in April, there was a MASSIVE exercise taking place.

It was the 9th Expeditionary Bomb Squadron. They came out of Dyess.

[Zaphod58]

More tanker movements tonight. Three KC-46s came out of Travis and are heading east. I believe I know where they're going, and it's the last area a bomber mission might refuel that didn't have tanker coverage.

There may also be a bomber task force mission to Fairford coming up soon. A C-17 came out of Shreveport and went northeast along the coast before dropping off near Nova Scotia, and another C-17 came out of Travis and is heading to Shreveport.

[annonentity]

So the gist of the situation, as I understand it, is that the US doesn't need to get directly involved in this itself by sending bombing missions to Iran.

Trump says he has not yet decided whether to attack Iran or not:  "Maybe I will. Maybe I won't. Nobody knows what I will do."  (I get it, but geez, he could have said it in a way that sounded less like a lunatic!)


This means, again, as I understand it, that if the US does go ahead and launches its own assault on Iran, 

It will be solely because the President decided that he wanted to do it, rather than because he had to do it?

This has been on the cards for years as far as what the US is going to do. That is the problem, in all these years Iran has taken strategic measures to combat the encroaching problematic day , it is a trap of epic proportions . Which might collapse the west to the point where UN governance might become a reality for many of the countries involved this in all probability might have been the plan all along. Extremely Prophetic Words on Iran Attack - 153 News - Because Censorship Kills

  Trump  was going to bomb Iran back into the dark ages , but he might have realized he might be on the wrong side of history if he does, Tel Aviv is looking like Gazza,even some Jewish comedians see the irony. and it is a sad time for all involved, but any intervention is going to be problematical. The similarities between Ukraine and the Israel Regime seem to be heading to the same conclusion.Israel Hides Damage From Devastating Iranian Missile Attacks

[Orby]

Then Egypt would have to deal with Hamas and Iran?  

I think they are quite happy watching Iran and Hamas knock themselves out over Israel.

True. We need to keep an eye out for Chinese involvement too through the back door. They were doing something in Egypt a few weeks ago, maybe a joint exercise or something. Amazing really that an age old domain of Russia and America is now playing games with China and that China is getting its claws into the region.