Israel approves plan to seize all of Gaza

[UltraBudgie]

Only Russia Today reports on Steve Bannon talking ahead of the game...

Christian state of Jerusalem is needed – ex-Trump adviser
Steve Bannon says a “three-state solution” is necessary to end the war in Gaza for good

A “three-state solution” is needed to end the war in Gaza and bring peace to the region, which would include a “Christian state,” according to Steve Bannon, a former adviser to US President Donald Trump and podcaster.

During his ‘War Room’ podcast on Friday, Bannon said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has failed to realize his vision of a “Greater Israel” – a concept based on biblical land that stretches from the Nile to the Euphrates. Critics link Netanyahu to the idea, citing his rejection of a Palestinian state and continued expansion of settlements in the West Bank as proof of the de facto pursuit of this.

“This Greater Israel project of Netanyahu blew up in his face… [It] destroyed Israel. And this is why now you have to go to a three-state solution, and one of those states has to be the Christian state of Jerusalem,” Bannon said. “We need a Christian state in the Holy Land. You just need it to make sure 20, 25, 30 years from now everything’s kind of sorted.”

Bannon made similar remarks earlier this month, saying peace in Gaza “can’t work” with only “the Muslims and the Jews.” He has not provided details on how a Christian state would be formed or why it would stabilize the region.

He argued that neither Israel – a “protectorate” and “vassal state” of the US – nor Hamas, which he called “a minor player,” would shape Gaza’s future in the long run. In his view, Qatar would fund Gaza’s reconstruction while Türkiye serves as its “security force.”

The former adviser went on to say that although the US has not explicitly endorsed Palestinian statehood in Trump’s peace plan, the framework implies what he called “a proto-Palestinian state,” suggesting that Washington could eventually recognize it as sovereign.

Israel and Hamas agreed to a tentative ceasefire in early October under Trump’s 20-point peace plan, which calls for a phased Israeli withdrawal, humanitarian aid access, Hamas’ disarmament, and a demilitarized Gaza under an interim Palestinian administration overseen by an international “Board of Peace.” Despite mutual accusations of violations, both sides reaffirmed their commitment to the truce this week.

https://www.rt.com/news/626951-bannon-ga...ian-state/

Interesting to hear the Nile-to-Euphrates plan (as mentioned long ago in the OP of this thread) talked about as though it were of course the plan all along. But isn't Mr Bannon getting ahead of things? I though it was Third Temple and Greater Israel before World Turn Against and Christian Holy Land. If I'm remembering my secret Christian Zionist agenda correctly. Isn't that the timeline?

Also what the hell is up with spelling Turkey as "Türkiye"? When did that happen?

[Maxmars]

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Also what the hell is up with spelling Turkey as "Türkiye"? When did that happen?

Same thing that happened when Kiev changed pronunciation in American media - all at once - no longer [Kee yev] but now [Keev]...

It's closer to the regional word... 
Perhaps telegraphing the next area of focus lining up.

[RichardHurt]

Same thing that happened when Kiev changed pronunciation in American media - all at once - no longer [Kee yev] but now [Keev]...

It's closer to the regional word... 
Perhaps telegraphing the next area of focus lining up.

I was always under the impression that Kiev was pronounced Ki-a eve.

[Maxmars]

I was always under the impression that Kiev was pronounced Ki-a eve.

I suppose my idea of it's pronunciation is different... making absolutely no claim of authority...
The authorities are the folks who live there.

[UltraBudgie]

I suppose my idea of it's pronunciation is different... making absolutely no claim of authority...
The authorities are the folks who live there.

I have noticed that when you hear Israelis talk about Palestine, they will rarely call it Palestine, instead referring to bits as Sumaria or Judea or whatnot. So that sword of "authorities are the folks who live there" cuts both ways, depending on the acknowledgement of their authority and validity of their occupation.

[Maxmars]

I have noticed that when you hear Israelis talk about Palestine, they will rarely call it Palestine, instead referring to bits as Sumaria or Judea or whatnot. So that sword of "authorities are the folks who live there" cuts both ways, depending on the acknowledgement of their authority and validity of their occupation.

I can see it here as well...

How we gently objectify those we 'intend' to judge...

It's everywhere... no culture is free from it...

Maybe it's not cultural at all, but an aspect of human nature...

A kind of relativism that some are too proud to admit exists.

[IDELB2006]

I am starting to warm to the idea of a three state solution .

Link

What we have been missing is a third party at the table. Its clearly the only way forward.

[Maxmars]

Could it be that only certain voices have value to the principal players?...

and certain ears....

[UltraBudgie]

Could it be that only certain voices have value to the principal players?...

and certain ears....

wait is it aliens? with ears like spock? are they the whisperers?

be more enematic.

i mean politicians always have overt and covert constituencies.

remember how hillary trotted around to all the wall st firms before she even decided to run?

[UltraBudgie]

Found this image claiming that's what the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent:

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...6501a0.jpg]

And I am wondering what Egypt's reaction to this will be?

Israel has 'Biblical right' to take over all of Middle East, claims US envoy Huckabee

US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, tells commentator Tucker Carlson that it would be "fine" for Israel to take over an area encompassing all of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

In a high-stakes interview that has exposed a deep rift within the American Republican coalition, US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee has told commentator Tucker Carlson that Israel possesses a "Biblical right" to claim a vast swathe of land spanning the modern Middle East.

During the sit-down at Ben Gurion Airport on Wednesday, Carlson pressed the ambassador on the geographic boundaries of land grants described in Genesis 15, which include the territory from the Nile to the Euphrates.

When asked if Israel would have the right to take over the entire region based on this "original deed," Huckabee responded: "It would be fine if they took it all."

That an area that would include entire Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

"Israel is a land that God gave, through Abraham, to a people that he chose," Huckabee said, describing the Jewish people's connection to the land as a combination of "a people, a place, and a purpose."

While he later claimed that the Israeli government is not currently seeking to expand to those ancient borders, affirmation of Huckabee, a Baptist minister and an avowed Zionist, of the theological claim has triggered immediate international condemnation and reignited debates over the influence of Christian Zionism on US foreign policy.

Carlson interview of the US envoy stemmed from prior public disputes between the two over Israel's policies, particularly regarding Christians and US foreign policy.

Carlson has been accusing Huckabee of prioritising Israeli interests over American ones.

Carlson has previously interviewed both a Palestinian Christian and a Jordanian Christian, focusing on their experiences of harmonious co-existence within Muslim-majority societies.

These discussions also addressed the oppressive policies enacted during the Israeli military occupation.


https://x.com/TCNetwork/status/2024911932092813478

Israeli leaders’ Latvia or Poland roots

The interview, which aired on Friday, quickly devolved into a heated exchange regarding the universal application of national rights.

Carlson, who has grown increasingly critical of unconditional US support for Israel, questioned why Huckabee defends the indigenous rights of Eastern European Jews while appearing more hesitant to affirm the same rights for the Irish or for Palestinian Christians whose families have lived in the Levant for two millennia.

"How do we know that Bibi [Netanyahu's] ancestors ever lived here?" Carlson asked, pointing out that many Israeli leaders have roots in Latvia or Poland.

"There are a lot of people in the territory that Israel controls today... who through genetic testing, we can know their families have been here for thousands of years. They have less of a right to the land than someone whose ancestors lived in Latvia?"

Huckabee dismissed the genetic argument, insisting that the "biblical, historical, and ethnic" connection creates a "very strong case" that is validated by archaeology.

"The stones cry out," the ambassador said, referencing the City of David excavations as proof of a 3,800-year continuous link.


https://x.com/TCNetwork/status/2024913189922898137

Gaza genocide numbers

The conversation turned sharply toward the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where Israel has killed and wounded tens of thousands of Palestinians, wiped off all neighbourhoods and displaced almost entire 2.3 million residents in its genocide.

Huckabee falsely claimed that the Israel military have maintained a "lower proportion of civilians killed in urban warfare than in any urban conflict in modern history."

However, the ambassador struggled to provide concrete figures when pressed by Carlson.

After initially stating he did not know the exact death toll, Huckabee later suggested that if one accepted the Gaza Health Ministry's figures — which he estimated at roughly 60,000 — the ratio of militants to civilians killed would still be record-breaking for its "humanity."

"You just said they did a better job than the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan," Carlson countered.

"On what basis are you making the claim that the Israeli Army in Gaza spared more civilians than the US Army and Marine Corps?" Huckabee admitted he did not have the exact numbers on hand but maintained his position based on "conversations with people who fought there."


https://x.com/TCNetwork/status/2024919481597001909

Huckabee defends Israel’s killing of children

Experts suggest the Gaza death toll of over 70,000 may be an undercount.

According to a new study published in The Lancet Global Health, more than 75,000 Palestinians were killed in the first 15 months of Israel's genocide in Gaza, a figure significantly higher than the 49,000 deaths announced at the time by local health officials.

The peer-reviewed research has found that women, children and the elderly accounted for 56.2 percent of violent deaths during that period, a proportion it said broadly aligns with reporting by Gaza's health ministry.

The study, conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and led by Michael Spagat of Royal Holloway, University of London, surveyed 2,000 Palestinian households over seven days beginning on December 30, 2024.

"The combined evidence suggests that, as of January 5, 2025, 3–4 percent of the population of Gaza had been killed violently and there have been a substantial number of non-violent deaths caused indirectly by the conflict," the authors wrote.

During the interview, Huckabee defended Israel’s killing of children in Gaza, including 14-year-olds, suggesting some may have been complicit.

"If they participated in that then God help them."

The US envoy justified killings if individuals "supported Hamas" or "fought Israel," even if they were minors, while Carlson expressed bafflement and stated he would "never murder children."

" If these were your children being held hostage in Gaza, what would you do to get them out?" Huckabee asked Carlson, who replied, "I would not kill children, period. And I wouldn’t make excuses for killing children either."

https://www.trtworld.com/article/51a0af83a11b