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Israel approves plan to seize all of Gaza
So much for the separation between church and state
(10-01-2025, 07:27 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Oh find me a virtue to signal...

Why is the further right in America suddenly so vocal and supportive of Israeli sovereignty?

Appreciate it, but where was Jewish/Israel support when white-supremacist hate groups were painting swastikas on synagogues? The outcry was usually always from the left pushing diversity and tolerance when it happened. 

Now, its Palestine supporters painting swastikas, but it used to be the ultra-patriotic anti-immigrant crowd that hated Jews for being the architects of woke. 

Like the scene in American History X where Elliott Gould is defending the liberal side of the LA riots and Edward Norton flips out calling it opportunism at its worst, and berates his bleeding heart. 

It's especially perplexing, because only on Israel sovereignty is the stereotypical Elliott Gould sided with, but everything else still sounds like Edward Norton.

Like everything else Gould would say (not related to Jewish persecution) would still be called DEI snowflake nonsense.

 It's cognitively dissonant.

The entire liberal/conservative switcheroo on Israel is.

Like I just always want to ask, "You do know the society you're supporting, right?"

So to be clear, you can overlook and wholeheatedly support other woke countries, but treat that policy when used in America as the scourge of society and call it radical?

It seems disconnected and convenient all around. LGBTQ+ supporting a culture that kills them, and anti-woke supporting the society whose highest court rules in ways they'd detest. 

Seems wonky on all sides.



“It's cognitively dissonant.”

That’s what you get when double standards are placed on Israel.

Name another western country defending itself that wasn’t allowed to fight to win.
(10-01-2025, 09:37 PM)Vermilion Wrote: That’s what you get when double standards are placed on Israel.

Name another western country defending itself that wasn’t allowed to fight to win.

Israel gets the viral treatment. Its mostly Al Jazeera and Haaretz (Israel's NY Times/Huffington Post) leading it.

The reporting of Israel on the left-leaning world stage reminds me of right-leaning coverage of immigration in the USA. Bias, selective examples meant to enrage.

Like, Isolated occurrences are made to seem the norm and taken into a more politically useful context.

Double standards are just things to ignore when it's useful. For EVERYONE.

Honestly?

It's getting fucking tiring. I dont think the war cabinet is interested in bringing home hostages, or simply won't admit that ship has already sailed and sank. I think it's the lowest rated war cabinet in the history of Israel. Defined by the average Israelis' lack of confidence.

They are seen more like Ahab out to kill the Olive Whale of Hamas at all costs. The Haaretz view is popular. And while there's agreement, "No Hamas is a far better world for everyone," it's become a story of waiting as the IDF tries to clear every last rat hole in Gaza City to no avail.

Its becoming a Vietnam in its perceived unwinnable qualities.
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(10-01-2025, 10:56 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Israel gets the viral treatment. Its mostly Al Jazeera and Haaretz (Israel's NY Times/Huffington Post) leading it.

The reporting of Israel on the left-leaning world stage reminds me of right-leaning coverage of immigration in the USA. Bias, selective examples meant to enrage.

Like, Isolated occurrences are made to seem the norm and taken into a more politically useful context.

Double standards are just things to ignore when it's useful. For EVERYONE.

Honestly?

It's getting fucking tiring. I dont think the war cabinet is interested in bringing home hostages, or simply won't admit that ship has already sailed and sank. I think it's the lowest rated war cabinet in the history of Israel. Defined by the average Israelis' lack of confidence.

They are seen more like Ahab out to kill the Olive Whale of Hamas at all costs. The Haaretz view is popular. And while there's agreement, "No Hamas is a far better world for everyone," it's become a story of waiting as the IDF tries to clear every last rat hole in Gaza City to no avail.

Its becoming a Vietnam in its perceived unwinnable qualities.



It’s arguably the oldest and most dangerous amalgam of religions, history, and secularism now seasoned with the Information Age and modern day politics.
A Chimera would be jealous.


How Trump Brought Hamas to the Table - by Peter Berkowitz

The terror group’s sudden openness to Trump’s peace plan is the product of his decision to flip the diplomatic script: advancing peace by negotiating with Israel’s Arab neighbors.


Cheers
Dare I say it?

The people who are at war... the actual people who MAKE war ...

Have no intention of stopping.

It seems, they must be told to stop, ordered to stop.

That, in and of itself, is wrapped around the root of the matter...

Which ironically can't be 'negotiated' as long as those people demand war...

They seem to have the final say in whether there is war, whoever they are...
(10-04-2025, 05:21 PM)Maxmars Wrote: It seems, they must be told to stop, ordered to stop.

Stop, or we'll say stop again! Lol

Hey, remember that old Al Gore quote, about there being “no controlling legal authority"?

That's the case here. The UN is toothless, trade sanctions don't work, and God apparently wants there to be genocide.
Hamas and the Palestinians are now engaged in a civil war.
Hamas is shooting armed Palestinians, who are shooting back now.

FOX NEWS - Dozens killed in Gaza Violence between Hamas and Armed Clans

Daily  Mail - Hamas Vows to Cleanse Gaza of Collaborators with Israel
(10-13-2025, 04:33 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Hamas and the Palestinians are now engaged in a civil war.
Hamas is shooting armed Palestinians, who are shooting back now.

FOX NEWS - Dozens killed in Gaza Violence between Hamas and Armed Clans

Daily  Mail - Hamas Vows to Cleanse Gaza of Collaborators with Israel


Sad , but in a way it's needed to cleanse the Palestinians of the Hamas parasite?
Go Clans!!

Seriously though, this is what is required for the people to take back control of their own country and their own communities.


Tecate
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