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(05-07-2025, 05:47 AM)Kwaka Wrote: How you see a nation as a person is messed up. It comes across that the only reason why you think every Muslim wants you dead is because you want every Muslim dead.
The only way to achieve that this day and age is to go Mad Max. It is one way to stop AI if it does go that way.
It really is bizarre seeing people argue, apparently with no moral qualms, that an entire civilian population is bad and undeserving of basic human rights protections.
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08-22-2025, 05:16 AM
This post was last modified: 08-22-2025, 06:08 AM by UltraBudgie. 
(05-06-2025, 06:39 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: I am kind of curious why nobody is angry at the IDF for murdering their own citizens though on October 7, 2023. That one still confuses me. The IDF admitted it in their investigation, it was reported on Times of Israel, Haaretz, and the JPost, so it is not "evil Muslim propaganda" , but their is nary a peep about accountability for the government ordering the murder of its own citizens? Eh well, necessary sacrifice I suppose.
Well, several hundred of them, anyway, but not a majority of those killed in the attack. Only a majority of those killed at the music festival itself.
Edit: Other story moved to this thread since it's more appropriate there:
False Flag Attack from Gaza
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In 1917 during the collapse of the ottoman empire *not to be confused with its end in 1922* it expelled the jews as refugees across several countries throughout all of Europe. Gypsies, nomads. They settled wherever they could much like homeless encampments. Germany later became nationalists *We are Germans so only German people's should be here* began rounding the camps and peoples up to be expelled many years later and invaded poland to take back the land they lost in world war 1
To sum up, great Britain then gave the jews land that wasnt theirs to give in an area they didnt think anyone really was to solve the homeless problem, displacing the indigenous people. A lot of people talk about the Israelites and the promised land crossing the river jordan to the promised land. Israel is not their promised land its Jordan because they crossed the river jordan from east to west after their liberation from Egypt. Away from present day Isreal. Needless to say though, they are all the same people and are fighting each other. Brother vs brother. Its a shame they have so much in common. No, but you guys are right lets promote the fighting instead......its what the arms dealers want. You only fan the fires of the rich by choosing sides. Why would anyone gladly support any murder anywhere.....People are smiling in their blood lust
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Here's a NYTimes "Article" to ponder and debunk and point to what's true and what may be fake and propaganda and for what reasons......
Gaza City and Surrounding Areas Are Officially Under Famine, Monitors Say
"Monitors Say" ????
Quote:Gaza City and the surrounding territory are officially suffering from famine, a global group of experts announced on Friday, nearly two years into an unrelenting war in which Israel has blocked most food and other aid from entering the Gaza Strip.
The group, which the United Nations and aid agencies rely on to monitor and classify global hunger crises, said that at least half a million people in Gaza Governorate were facing the most severe conditions it measures: starvation, acute malnutrition and death.
With rare exceptions, the rest of Gaza’s total population of two million people was also struggling with severe hunger, according to the group, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification, which is made up of food insecurity experts who monitor world hunger.
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(08-22-2025, 05:05 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It really is bizarre seeing people argue, apparently with no moral qualms, that an entire civilian population is bad and undeserving of basic human rights protections.
WWII we didn't differentiate between Germans and Nazi's.
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08-22-2025, 10:42 AM
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(08-22-2025, 05:05 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It really is bizarre seeing people argue, apparently with no moral qualms, that an entire civilian population is bad and undeserving of basic human rights protections.
Anyone over the age of 8 is culpable in Gaza.
That's the truth of it.
They all supported attacking Israel and starting the war.
They all danced for joy in the streets over the mass murder and mass rape.
Tens of thousands of them lined the streets and jeered and abused the hostages as they were paraded around the city.
The so called 'civilians' are hiding the hostages in their homes and support keeping them.
They all teach their children to mass murder Jews and that Israel doesn't exist. It's in their childrens books and in their schools and in their homes.
What is really bizarre is seeing people argue that the people of Gaza are NOT culpable for their own actions and that they deserve special exemption from the consequences of their uncivilized and incendiary actions.
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(08-22-2025, 09:10 AM)xuenchen Wrote: Here's a NYTimes "Article" to ponder and debunk and point to what's true and what may be fake and propaganda and for what reasons......
Gaza City and Surrounding Areas Are Officially Under Famine, Monitors Say
Gee ... maybe the idiots shouldn't have started a war against a country that can wipe them off the face of the earth. DUH. Now they suffer from the consequences of their own actions.
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(08-22-2025, 05:16 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Well, several hundred of them, anyway, but not a majority of those killed in the attack. Only a majority of those killed at the music festival itself.
False Hamas propaganda.
Israel didn't mass murder it's own citizens.
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(08-22-2025, 10:44 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Gee ... maybe the idiots shouldn't have started a war against a country that can wipe them off the face of the earth. DUH. Now they suffer from the consequences of their own actions.
I don't think Hamas leadership saw that Iran would get trashed and no longer back them. Now they're stuck with an ideology based on hate and no funding.
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(08-22-2025, 05:24 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: I
To sum up, great Britain then gave the jews land that wasnt theirs to give in an area they didnt think anyone really was to solve the homeless problem, displacing the indigenous people. A lot of people talk about the Israelites and the promised land crossing the river jordan to the promised land.
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
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