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Israel approves plan to seize all of Gaza
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#92
(08-08-2025, 03:19 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Oh silly me, I suppose you’re right when you’re basically saying….
“Cutting somebody open to remove their cancer is actually making things worse.”

Cute analogy, your problem being Gaza isn't a human body, and geopolitics is not surgery.

Removing "the cancer" sounds great until you remember there's no anesthetic, the surgeon's using a sledgehammer, and the operating room is full of kids.

Real life simply isn't as tidy as your little metaphor Vermilion.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#93
I'd give it till years end before any real talks of rebuilding take place. When they do, what's left will be zoned accordingly by the US and Israel. We will agree to help rebuild in our(the elites) vision. This vision has been mentioned numerous times within the past years or longer.
It's a sad thought that we are willing to support and even arm and provide Intel to speed this along. When in reality we are cheering on the destruction of a people for the rich to benefit off of.
I'm so sick or this perpetual hate that get brought in by people that honestly don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. At some point that will end and it won't be pretty what happens after. We are screwed which ever way the wind blows.
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(08-08-2025, 04:16 PM)RuchardHurt Wrote: I'd give it till years end before any real talks of rebuilding take place. When they do, what's left will be zoned accordingly by the US and Israel. We will agree to help rebuild in our(the elites) vision. This vision has been mentioned numerous times within the past years or longer.
It's a sad thought that we are willing to support and even arm and provide Intel to speed this along. When in reality we are cheering on the destruction of a people for the rich to benefit off of.
I'm so sick or this perpetual hate that get brought in by people that honestly don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. At some point that will end and it won't be pretty what happens after. We are screwed which ever way the wind blows.

It seems to be an unstoppable agenda. To the point that protest against it is becoming illegalized. Almost as sad as the agenda itself is the damage done to the idea of truth and morality. Lies and strong-arming the truth via disinformation and suppression seem to be part and parcel of the agenda.

Quote:Israel’s Genocide Has Killed More Journalists Than WWI and WWII Combined: Report

More journalists have been killed in Israel’s genocide in Gaza than in the past seven major U.S.-involved wars combined, marking the “worst ever conflict” for reporters in history, a new report says.

As of late March, at least 232 journalists have been killed in the Gaza genocide, with the vast majority being Palestinians, according to a new paper by the Costs of War project in Brown University’s Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs. Nearly 380 journalists have been wounded in the violence as of January, per the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate.

This is the highest journalist death toll of any U.S. war since the Civil War, the group says — and, in fact, tops the combined toll of journalist casualties in the U.S. Civil War, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War (including the U.S.’s assaults on Cambodia and Laos), the Yugoslav Wars, the War in Afghanistan, and the ongoing Ukraine War.
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(08-08-2025, 03:27 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Cute analogy, your problem being Gaza isn't a human body, and geopolitics is not surgery.

Removing "the cancer" sounds great until you remember there's no anesthetic, the surgeon's using a sledgehammer, and the operating room is full of kids.

Real life simply isn't as tidy as your little metaphor Vermilion.



The reality is Hamas has to go and no peace can be achieved until Hamas is gone.
If we can’t agree on that, then it’s clear who needs a reality check.
Hamas actually has a choice in the matter in which they “go”.
They can all die or they can release the hostages and surrender.
There is no third option.
As we’ve all witnessed since that fateful October 7th, everything going on in Gaza is a direct result of Hamas, and their supporters, choices.
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(08-08-2025, 04:25 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It seems to be an unstoppable agenda. To the point that protest against it is becoming illegalized. Almost as sad as the agenda itself is the damage done to the idea of truth and morality. Lies and strong-arming the truth via disinformation and suppression seem to be part and parcel of the agenda.



Does genocide still consist of massive population decline?
Asking for a friend.
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(08-08-2025, 05:38 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The reality is Hamas has to go and no peace can be achieved until Hamas is gone.
If we can’t agree on that, then it’s clear who needs a reality check.
Hamas actually has a choice in the matter in which they “go”.
They can all die or they can release the hostages and surrender.
There is no third option.
As we’ve all witnessed since that fateful October 7th, everything going on in Gaza is a direct result of Hamas, and their supporters, choices.

The reality is that the history of the area didn't begin on October 7th.

Sure, Hamas is brutal and needs to be dealt with.

They are murdering terrorist scum, but pretending everything in Gaza is their fault is just lazy.

Decades of blockade, occupation, and repeated wars didn't magically appear because Hamas woke up cranky one morning.

And this "two options" bit? Cute, but real life isn't that boolean.

Or a video game where the bad guys either die, or press surrender.

Without a plan for what comes after, you're just swapping one disaster for another.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#99
Hamas, like so many other groups identifying glory with destruction, especially those with pride in unquenchable hate, are never going to change their "product.". 

They are but the facade, they 'sell', they 'buy.' 
The money for this glorious effort comes from somewhere, no?

There's a hidden world....
(08-08-2025, 05:59 PM)andy06shake Wrote: The reality is that the history of the area didn't begin on October 7th.

Sure, Hamas is brutal and needs to be dealt with.

They are murdering terrorist scum, but pretending everything in Gaza is their fault is just lazy.

Decades of blockade, occupation, and repeated wars didn't magically appear because Hamas woke up cranky one morning.

And this "two options" bit? Cute, but real life isn't that boolean.

Or a video game where the bad guys either die, or press surrender.

Without a plan for what comes after, you're just swapping one disaster for another.


What disaster does your crystal ball says happens if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders?



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