Is Telepathy real?

[andy06shake]

We do a billion things everyday without knowing how it works and never question it, we learned to walk and talk without knowing anything about how the body or the universe works. This topic is rejected because not understanding how it works? No, this topic is rejected because you can't do it and your jealous and have fear of those who can. Pride and hubris

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That's because society works by relying on layers of specialised knowledge.

If we had to understand everything we use and do, life would grind to a halt pretty sharpish.

We only question things when they break patterns or threaten us.

[andy06shake]

Ok I'll play I think Reincarnation is a suppressed fact because it would stuff up the cornerstones of a property owning society. Because if proven in court and f I died a rich man or even Royal, and got reborn in a pauper's family, I would want my money and status back. So if factual the whole basis of property ownership and wealth would have to change.  Here is a case which is pretty hard to dismiss. If accepted it alters everything, Or could.....One Woman's Astonishing REINCARNATION CASE

The problem being reincarnation is self-defeating by it's very nature.

Because it risks making this life less meaningful.

If people believe they'll have endless chances, they tend to avoid responsibility and growth.

It can also lead to victim-blaming.

Suffering framed as punishment for past-life actions you don’t even remember doesn't make any sense.

It undermines self-worth and fosters guilt without resolution.

[IgnorantGod]

I would hypothesize to you that emotions and feelings and conscious thought come from two seperate parts of the brain almost as if they are seperate organs of the same system. Furthermore, it is already established that it can be measured during an eeg

The eeg part got me back to thinking about the similarities between computer hardware and the brain. From a certain perspective, computers are oversimplified neural networks.

How 'virtual' functions exhibit the same translation method as 'conscious' functions is fascinating in my opinion. They both use electrical pulses to make binary sequences and have components with a built-in 'table' to map specific sequences with 'actions to be performed' or not.

At the end of the day, wouldn't a 'feeling' be a more complex 'virutal' interface/function of iinteractions between matter (a 'body' and an 'environment' for example)?

[quintessentone]

The problem being reincarnation is self-defeating by it's very nature.

Because it risks making this life less meaningful.

If people believe they'll have endless chances, they tend to avoid responsibility and growth.

It can also lead to victim-blaming.

Suffering framed as punishment for past-life actions you don’t even remember doesn't make any sense.

It undermines self-worth and fosters guilt without resolution.

I believe in the afterlife and reincarnation but I don't believe or behave in any of the negative behaviours you posted.

Everyone is different and not everyone looks at the afterlife and/or reincarnation in the same manner.

My way is to try to do good deeds as much as I am able right now because I believe I will have to account for it to myself (nobody or nothing else) in the afterlife and facing any misdeeds, failures of spirit or spiritual convictions, etc. right now and then trying to correct or accept them as the human condition are foremost in my mind. But I'm a retired elderly person so I have lots of time to soul search and fix and heal myself and as I can love and forgive myself first, I can then share that love and forgiveness to others.

So now's the time to self-actualize, make corrections and try to have a meaningful existence in the now, or make my existence meaningful to myself and others.

Having said that, not all people have the mental health or ability to heal themselves or love themselves and I wonder if people with mental health or anger issues really get to the point of soul searching and/or actually think about an afterlife in the sense that it may be a path for spiritual growth.

[andy06shake]

I believe in the afterlife and reincarnation but I don't believe or behave in any of the negative behaviours you posted.

Everyone is different and not everyone looks at the afterlife and/or reincarnation in the same manner.

My way is to try to do good deeds as much as I am able right now because I believe I will have to account for it to myself (nobody or nothing else) in the afterlife and facing any misdeeds, failures of spirit or spiritual convictions, etc. right now and then trying to correct or accept them as the human condition are foremost in my mind. But I'm a retired elderly person so I have lots of time to soul search and fix and heal myself and as I can love and forgive myself first, I can then share that love and forgiveness to others.

So now's the time to self-actualize, make corrections and try to have a meaningful existence in the now, or make my existence meaningful to myself and others.

Having said that, not all people have the mental health or ability to heal themselves or love themselves and I wonder if people with mental health or anger issues really get to the point of soul searching and/or actually think about an afterlife in the sense that it may be a path for spiritual growth.

Believe what you please, it is our right after all.

But what you are after is proof, of the tangible sorts.

Which, if we are honest, will never be found this side of existence. 

And it seems to me the assumption that afterlife beliefs require specific moral behaviors or self-actualisation to be somewhat subjective, as opposed to universal.

Concepts like reincarnation and spiritual growth vary widely across all sorts of different cultures and philosophies.

And they can't all be correct, considering they are not all claiming the same thing or anything reminiscent of the sorts. 

As to mental health or anger issues, people with psychological struggles experience things differently.

But meaningfulness in life doesn't strictly depend on self-healing or forgiveness.

The fact of the matter is that our beliefs and practices are highly individual and cannot really be rigidly measured.

[quintessentone]

Believe what you please, it is our right after all.

But what you are after is proof, of the tangible sorts.

Which, if we are honest, will never be found this side of existence. 

And it seems to me the assumption that afterlife beliefs require specific moral behaviors or self-actualisation to be somewhat subjective, as opposed to universal.

Concepts like reincarnation and spiritual growth vary widely across all sorts of different cultures and philosophies.

And they can't all be correct, considering they are not all claiming the same thing or anything reminiscent of the sorts. 

As to mental health or anger issues, people with psychological struggles experience things differently, but meaningfulness in life doesn't strictly depend on self-healing or forgiveness.

The fact of the matter is that our beliefs and practices are highly individual and cannot really be rigidly measured.

Well if one learns the varying cultural beliefs of what the afterlife or reincarnation looks like, then 'yes' it can be measured. For me, I measure it as I believe and that's all I can do, that is all anyone can do.

[andy06shake]

Well if one learns the varying cultural beliefs of what the afterlife or reincarnation looks like, then 'yes' it can be measured. For me, I measure it as I believe and that's all I can do, that is all anyone can do.

If you manage that feat, i would be hell of impressed.

Because if we cannot measure or observe something.

It's pretty much above our pay grade in this verse.

And as far as im aware, nobody has ever come back from the astral realms.

To tell the tale of what happens next, or past this existence.

I mean i think it's simply prudent to hedge one bet.

Because you are wrong, you are never going to know. 

[quintessentone]

If you manage that feat, i would be hell of impressed.

Because if we cannot measure or observe something.

It's pretty much above our pay grade in this verse.

And as far as im aware, nobody has ever come back from the astral realms.

To tell the tale of what happens next, or past this existence.

I mean i think it's simply prudent to hedge one bet.

Because you are wrong, you are never going to know. 

Well I've had experiences where deceased family did come back from the astral realms, #1 to prove there is an afterlife as they promised me they would do, and #2 to let me know everything I need to know with a very large loving and peaceful smile.

[KTemplar]

You know, I have noticed that I also answer people's questions before they even ask them too.  I always thought it was tied to the expression on their face though, I tend to pay attention to people's expressions a lot when talking to them.  But it also seems to work with people diagnosed with lack of facial expression who have autism.   I just say the answer without being asked of something they are wondering about.  It does make it easier to deal with workers who worked under me, so I learned how to do that almost fifty years ago, when I started my first handyman business...but at that time I was having my drinking buddies work with me, which didn't work very well, so I spent about three more years working for others and when I got good at doing this, I spent much of my working life being a foreman or management person and finally starting my own company again.

But some people I cannot read very well, but the vast majority I could work with.  I seem to have had some Delta and Sigma male mixture, not really too Alpha or Beta. 

So, I am not sure if I can just read people or if there is something else at play, and like you said, I can almost hear the question they are going to ask before they ask it...It is like my mind is hearing their thoughts possibly.  I say possibly, because I am not sure that is real or if I am good at evaluating expressions or body language and evaluating it to what I have just said or expect them to say.

Mine were not even on topic,  it was highly unusual.  I’ve had the ability since I was a child.  I do enjoy working with the public because I see so much.   It’s quite the learning experience. 

I have had some serious danger signals coming from some people that I preferred to not even make eye contact with, have you ever had that?

[andy06shake]

Well I've had experiences where deceased family did come back from the astral realms, #1 to prove there is an afterlife as they promised me they would do, and #2 to let me know everything I need to know with a very large loving and peaceful smile.

If that constitutes personal proof for you, quintessentone i hope it brings you enormous peace of mind.

I would love that to happen to me.

As there are rather a few people i would like to see again.

Or simply have the privilege of one last conversation.

Unfortunately, it's a mere anecdote for the rest of us.

And not proof of an afterlife, as unfortunate as the case may be.