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(01-30-2026, 03:27 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Be careful putting too many staples, they can cause fires. Just enough to hold down the wire is fine 
When doing wiring, like using 12/2 WG or even the heavier gauge like 8/3 WG there is a Jacket over the wires, and you have to use the proper staples for the wire size....same with the wire nuts, they have to be the proper type. It does not mess up the wire if done right. The wire has to be secured within eight inches of the box. The wires have to be supported every so many feet, and need to be stapled within so many inches of a change of direction. Those things are in the electrical code and a lot of electricians cut corners on that stuff.
If done correctly, with the right staples, the risk of fire is no different.
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Finally, a happy ending. Not to imply this is the last post on your thread David, but I was prepared to Sit. Right. Here. until we got our promised good news.
Glad it worked out for you.  There is a certain joy in having things go bad during a warranty period. It requires patience. You did the right thing.
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(01-30-2026, 06:16 PM)rickymouse Wrote: When doing wiring, like using 12/2 WG or even the heavier gauge like 8/3 WG there is a Jacket over the wires, and you have to use the proper staples for the wire size....same with the wire nuts, they have to be the proper type. It does not mess up the wire if done right. The wire has to be secured within eight inches of the box. The wires have to be supported every so many feet, and need to be stapled within so many inches of a change of direction. Those things are in the electrical code and a lot of electricians cut corners on that stuff.
If done correctly, with the right staples, the risk of fire is no different.
Im aware of residential and industrial code, I was just giving good advice to someone who claimed to be an "electrician hand" it wasnt meant to harm you i wasnt questioning your knowledge its ok
Lol the jacket has a name too :p where im from we call it insulation
You ever wrap your low voltage around your pliers and football that sucker over the beams in the garage? Save ya a ladder trip
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(01-30-2026, 04:36 PM)David64 Wrote: Finally the good news.
It was the breaker. Which kinda pisses me off 'cause it was only 3 years old.
I know, I know, could have done it myself, but this thing is under warranty and these damn companies get so picky about it if I so much as turn a screw on a panel, it voids it.
Didn't cost much though. The price of a new 100 amp breaker and hour of time.
More bad news though.....now I don't have a reason to snuggle. 
a breaker? :p you dont say
Usually it takes a few trips for them to break, perhaps whoever installed it used one that they forgot was used
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01-30-2026, 06:48 PM
This post was last modified: 01-30-2026, 06:48 PM by sahgwa. 
(01-30-2026, 10:54 AM)David64 Wrote: Do they not have them in the UK ?
I just looked it up. You guys can get £7500 grant from the govt to upgrade your current system.
https://www.gov.uk/apply-boiler-upgrade-scheme I am an American and stupid in the ways of homes even though I am in my first one .
We have central air heating from the furnace.
Is a heat pump just a glorified space heater? Like smaller and only heats the space that it is in as opposed to channeling heat to the whole house?
Heats air?
Not like water for radiators?
I hope you get it fixed PRONTO
Can you buy smaller space heaters in the mean time?
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(01-30-2026, 06:48 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I am an American and stupid in the ways of homes even though I am in my first one .
We have central air heating from the furnace.
Is a heat pump just a glorified space heater? Like smaller and only heats the space that it is in as opposed to channeling heat to the whole house?
Heats air?
Not like water for radiators?
I hope you get it fixed PRONTO
Can you buy smaller space heaters in the mean time?
Its a pump and depending on the size can push heat throughout your entire home i believe they use compressors dont quote me on that because im thinking about mini splits at the moment that work in that way. Im not hvac and never have worked on it but I understand pumps and compressors. Like how you have a pump in your washer called a drain pump that pumps the water out. Pumps just push whatever they contain
I use space heaters and I eat a lot of soup
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01-30-2026, 07:54 PM
This post was last modified: 01-30-2026, 07:57 PM by sahgwa. 
(01-30-2026, 06:58 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Its a pump and depending on the size can push heat throughout your entire home i believe they use compressors dont quote me on that because im thinking about mini splits at the moment that work in that way. Im not hvac and never have worked on it but I understand pumps and compressors. Like how you have a pump in your washer called a drain pump that pumps the water out. Pumps just push whatever they contain
I use space heaters and I eat a lot of soup 
Aha i see, unlike forced air with a furnace like most people (?) in the States which of course usually burns natural gas, this is merely electrical which pushes air from outside:
https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/u...s-it-work/
OK cool :D
' A heat pump is part of a home heating and cooling system and is installed outside your home. Like an air conditioner such as central air, it can cool your home, but it’s also capable of providing heat. In cooler months, a heat pump pulls heat from the cold outdoor air and transfers it indoors, and in warmer months, it pulls heat out of indoor air to cool your home. They are powered by electricity and transfer heat using refrigerant to provide comfort all year round. Because they are able to both heat and cool a residence, homeowners may not need to install separate systems to heat their homes.'
I hope the OP's is fixed and in the meantime maybe he can use the nice little ceramic space heaters which are very efficient and not too pricey.
Oh so the Circuit Braker was the problem, not the heat pump? ouch. Glad it was fixed!
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(01-30-2026, 06:48 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I am an American and stupid in the ways of homes even though I am in my first one .
We have central air heating from the furnace.
Is a heat pump just a glorified space heater? Like smaller and only heats the space that it is in as opposed to channeling heat to the whole house?
Heats air?
Not like water for radiators?
I hope you get it fixed PRONTO
Can you buy smaller space heaters in the mean time?
No, they're rather large units that sit outside the house and either heat or cool air that is pushed through ductwork.
Mine is a different brand but looks like this -
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(01-30-2026, 08:02 PM)David64 Wrote: No, they're rather large units that sit outside the house and either heat or cool air that is pushed through ductwork.
Mine is a different brand but looks like this -
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...49d750.jpg]
Cheers man, glad you got your circuit breaker fixed!
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(01-30-2026, 06:48 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I am an American and stupid in the ways of homes even though I am in my first one .
We have central air heating from the furnace.
Is a heat pump just a glorified space heater? Like smaller and only heats the space that it is in as opposed to channeling heat to the whole house?
Heats air?
Not like water for radiators?
I hope you get it fixed PRONTO
Can you buy smaller space heaters in the mean time?
No. It's like an air conditioner in reverse. Compressing fluid to concentrate the heat. And instead of blowing the heat off (like an air conditioner) it heats the house with it.
Mine uses a gas furnace in the winter. With an electrical heat pump or air conditioner in the summer. But I'm not sure what I have? I'm just guessing.  Maybe I can use it year round instead of the gas in the winter depending on the price of natural gas.
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