Here's what you do

[Vermilion]

Everyone comprehends it, lol. The problem is trans kids are being fed this stuff from the crib to 18. There is no reason to discus gender and sex with a 3-4-5 year old. they have no use for it.

And the pro trans groups position is. Children should learn about gender and sex. Teens who aren't legally able to make decisions because the grown up line is 17 or 18, should be able to. So sticking them on mind altering drugs at 10 is suspect.

We all understand why you want to put them on mind altering drugs before they hit puberty. Technically the law doesn't allow it. And the pro trans figure they can ignore it.

Get the law changed and you won't have any issues. I don't understand why anyone doesn't understand that.

Working on it now….

DOJ Pushes Ban On “Chemical And Surgical Mutilation” Of Minors With New Legislation
“The Victims of Chemical or Surgical Mutilation Act would create federal penalties for healthcare providers who perform “gender-affirming” procedures on children. It also establishes legal pathways for families to sue medical professionals.”
https://dallasexpress.com/national/doj-p...gislation/

[ANNEE]

Working on it now….

DOJ Pushes Ban On “Chemical And Surgical Mutilation” Of Minors With New Legislation
“The Victims of Chemical or Surgical Mutilation Act would create federal penalties for healthcare providers who perform “gender-affirming” procedures on children. 

Because politicians are so knowledgeable of transgender care.

[Unknownparadox]

Where do you get your information that trans kids are being fed this stuff from crib to 18 (besides on discussion forums). 

As far as 3/5 year olds — why jump straight to physical sex?  Or pedophiles. 

It’s really bizarre.

 

Astrid said she knew she was a girl very early in her life.
 “That was right around when I could talk. I started voicing my feelings about who I was to my parents about preschool or pre-K," she said.
With her family’s support, she decided to socially transition when she was 8.
https://www.ideastream.org/health/2024-0...re-in-ohio

 

The Montgomery County Board of Education's "introduction of the 'LGBTQ+-inclusive' storybooks, along with its decision to withhold opt outs
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/scotus-r...=122528056

[quintessentone]

 
 
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQVx-qBBSY]

There are mixed reviews on introducing this book to children.

The GayBCs: Webb, M. L.: 9781683691624: Books - Amazon.ca

Nowhere in the book does it mention getting surgery to live one's life as the gender they believe they are.

Living a transgender life does not mean having to get surgery.

In the end, it's the parent's decision whether or not libraries, reading circles, or their children's schools read the book to their children because all a parent has to do is ask for the library book/reading list and have their child removed from that particular reading session.

[Unknownparadox]

There are mixed reviews on introducing this book to children.

The GayBCs: Webb, M. L.: 9781683691624: Books - Amazon.ca

Nowhere in the book does it mention getting surgery to live one's life as the gender they believe they are.

Living a transgender life does not mean having to get surgery.

In the end, it's the parent's decision whether or not libraries, reading circles, or their children's schools read the book to their children because all a parent has to do is ask for the library book/reading list and have their child removed from that particular reading session.

You are leaving a lot there. Whether or not to get surgery is not what I was responding to. I said kids are fed this stuff from crib to 18. You want to put them on mind altering drugs at 10. So when they can legally get surgery they don't have beards. Of course biden pushed to remove any guidelines on when to start chopping on kids.

But 10 years old is not old enough to make those kinds of decisions.

And no it hasn't been always the parents decision. It had to be taken to the supreme court just recently to get it to be parents decision. Because schools were forcing LGBTQ education. That you completely missed in my post.

[quintessentone]

You are leaving a lot there. Whether or not to get surgery is not what I was responding to. I said kids are fed this stuff from crib to 18. You want to put them on mind altering drugs at 10. So when they can legally get surgery they don't have beards. Of course biden pushed to remove any guidelines on when to start chopping on kids.

But 10 years old is not old enough to make those kinds of decisions.

And no it hasn't been always the parents decision. It had to be taken to the supreme court just recently to get it to be parents decision. Because schools were forcing LGBTQ education. That you completely missed in my post.

And you missed my point that it's up to parents to decide which reading sessions or library books their children have access to, not you or anyone else outside of that family.

[Unknownparadox]

And you missed my point that it's up to parents to decide which reading sessions or library books their children have access to, not you or anyone else outside of that family.

So your point is that for 5 months or so it's been up to the parents. I mean most people have to send their kids to school. They don't have the option to home school.

But more than that. The entire argument on trans kids is. Kids can't be influenced into being trans. But we need to influence kids on trans, so they accept them. If you can't influence kids to be trans. Then you can't influence them to do anything.

Either you can influence children or you can't.  Clearly you can influence children, it depends on what teach them when they are young. this is why a political, media and social media, campaign to spread the word on trans has been undertaken.

The message is. Hey kids, explore your sexuality/gender. Be what ever you want to be. It's completely reversible. Children have no use for sex/gender. They are completely naive to what they will be like when they become adults. Leaving them susceptible to the current adults.

[quintessentone]

So your point is that for 5 months or so it's been up to the parents. I mean most people have to send their kids to school. They don't have the option to home school.

But more than that. The entire argument on trans kids is. Kids can't be influenced into being trans. But we need to influence kids on trans, so they accept them. If you can't influence kids to be trans. Then you can't influence them to do anything.

Either you can influence children or you can't.  Clearly you can influence children, it depends on what teach them when they are young. this is why a political, media and social media, campaign to spread the word on trans has been undertaken.

The message is. Hey kids, explore your sexuality/gender. Be what ever you want to be. It's completely reversible. Children have no use for sex/gender. They are completely naive to what they will be like when they become adults. Leaving them susceptible to the current adults.

Children are exposed to information by the approval of their parents in their social environments not by social media. Even if children were to overhear something they did not understand, they would most likely ask their parents to explain it to them. Here is where the parents have the decision to explain it or not explain it.

The only way surgery or hormone therapy is ever discussed is if after a child/young adult has seen many psychologists trained specifically in this matter and is then recommended to a specialist for hormone therapy with the approval of the child's family or diagnosed with the many other disorders that may be the cause.

If the child/young adult is diagnosed with a mental illness, this automatically restricts them from proceeding further, in any way, shape or form.

You really should read some of the scientific studies posted in this thread to get the facts and get a handle on how the medical community is working towards better understanding what these trans people are really going through.

Another big issue is the cost of hormone therapy, let alone surgery, which must be maintained throughout their lives and most can't afford it, so that too goes nowhere fast.

[Unknownparadox]

Children are exposed to information by the approval of their parents in their social environments not by social media. Even if children were to overhear something they did not understand, they would most likely ask their parents to explain it to them. Here is where the parents have the decision to explain it or not explain it.

The only way surgery or hormone therapy is ever discussed is if after a child/young adult has seen many psychologists trained specifically in this matter and is then recommended to a specialist for hormone therapy with the approval of the child's family or diagnosed with the many other disorders that may be the cause.

If the child/young adult is diagnosed with a mental illness, this automatically restricts them from proceeding further, in any way, shape or form.

You really should read some of the scientific studies posted in this thread to get the facts and get a handle on how the medical community is working towards better understanding what these trans people are really going through.

Another big issue is the cost of hormone therapy, let alone surgery, which must be maintained throughout their lives and most can't afford it, so that too goes nowhere fast.

Dude this is crazy, what happens to these specifically trained people, if people stop going trans? Does that mean theses people have a specific financial interest /bias. In this matter? Every medical person who endorses trans has a finacial stake in it.. As you said

Another big issue is the cost of hormone therapy, let alone surgery, which must be maintained throughout their lives and most can't afford it, so that too goes nowhere fast.

So those poor people can learn to live with being in the wrong body.

I don't need to read any of the scientific studies posted. They were all done by biased people. Studying people who are biased, possible on mind altering drugs. Possible brain washed by caring democrats. Possibly afflicted by hormone mimicking chemicals.

The short and skinny is this. You have bias people studying biased people.

[ANNEE]

There's a Facebook site called:   BORN DIFFERENT

Watch it.  Tell me if these kids (yes, children) and adults were not getting the meds and treatment they needed -- you wouldn't be angry.

I'm sure some are taking very strong chemical meds to make their life more "normal".

What if politicians decided these strong meds (and treatments) were harmful to the body of these children born different?  Would you side with the politicians?

But because you do not understand gender dysphoria/transgender -- and it creeps you out -- you choose to deny them what they need.

https://www.facebook.com/BornDifferentShow/