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(09-13-2025, 06:57 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: I said we have had drag queens and transsexuals for decades. Just like we have had birth defects and sick children for decades. Abnormalities in humans occur naturally and unnaturally. 

But here is the thing. When we have a explosion of it, science usually starts looking for a cause. I happen to live in a city where such a thing occurred.

Lots kids were sick and slow. They found a reason, lead. Then they had to find where it was coming from. They did. It was in the dirt, the place had built ships during WW2 and had run a lot of plating plants. Which contaminated the soil around where these plants use to be.

The solution was to dig 2 feet down and remove that dirt, in a large swath of the city. They did it in sections over a number of years.

But with the trans explosion, we are told this is normal, there has always been a explosion of trans people. but I don't know of a time in history of any such occurrence.

Well I posted newer research which shows that those that think they have gender dyphoria actually were assessed within many different categories, so very few are actually correctly diagnosed with it. So maybe this explosion you are talking about are those with gender identification/expression confusion and not really genuine gender dysphoria.

What does any of this have to do with or have an effect on your life?
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-13-2025, 06:17 AM)Heiden Wrote: No one is born into the wrong body, thats one of the stupidest things ive heard. If a man thinks he is a woman. There is something wrong with him mentally. If a woman thinks she is a man, there is something wrong mentally. It is impossible to be born into the wrong body. If you feel that way, you are not in the wrong body. you just got some wires crossed somewhere.

And you know this how?

You are your brain, not your body.

Have you ever had to second guess who you are?  Or did you just know?
(09-13-2025, 01:27 PM)ANNEE Wrote: And you know this how?

You are your brain, not your body.

Have you ever had to second guess who you are?  Or did you just know?


Ive always known what I am. Ive never had to question it.  If I did it wouldnt be because I was born in  the wrong body. It is impossible to be born into the wrong body. being around for 90 years., It seems like you could have figured this out on your own.  No brain has ever nor ever will be born into the wrong body. lets just use common sense here
(09-13-2025, 03:50 PM)Heiden Wrote: Ive always known what I am. Ive never had to question it. 

Exactly!

And those whose "soup got stirred a bit different" -- know who they are too.

They don't need your validation.
(09-13-2025, 04:15 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Exactly!

And those whose "soup got stirred a bit different" -- know who they are too.

They don't need your validation.

Exactly their soup got stirred. Just means wires got crossed somewhere in the brain. Doesnt have anything to do with the myth of being born into the wrong body. The body you are born into is exactly the right one. Some are made pretty well , others not so much. But 100% fact. They are in the body they were supposed to be in.
(09-13-2025, 04:15 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Exactly!

And those whose "soup got stirred a bit different" -- know who they are too.

They don't need your validation.



This is whats wrong with liberals. They believe fantasy over facts
(09-13-2025, 12:40 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Well I posted newer research which shows that those that think they have gender dyphoria actually were assessed within many different categories, so very few are actually correctly diagnosed with it. So maybe this explosion you are talking about are those with gender identification/expression confusion and not really genuine gender dysphoria.

I can't imagine why they may be confused. I think the mix of hormone mimicking chemicals, combined with a political, media and social media campaign to encourage gender exploration, at a age that really isn't necessary. 

I think the supporters of it are subject to those hormone mimicking chemicals as well. 
Quote:What does any of this have to do with or have an effect on your life?

What's it got to do with yours? Are you trans? Or do you just like spreading the word? It has a lot to do with my life. I got grand kids and I would prefer not to see them subjected to sexual discussions at very early age.

While the backers of it claim, it not being forced. That was a lie. they claimed kids weren't getting surgery. That was a lie. Women are just as strong as men. Another lie. And if you don't believe that get a woman to punch you in the face. Then get a man to punch you in the face. See which one hits harder.

The truth is, every effort is being made by democrats, left media, and social media to shove it in kids faces. And I flat out don't like it. For a number of reason. I think it is borderline pedophile, if not pedophile. And the people pushing it are liars.
                                   
(09-13-2025, 04:20 PM)Heiden Wrote: This is whats wrong with liberals. They believe fantasy over facts

Explain to me factually what causes Left-handedness.

What causes yawning?
Why do we dream?
Why do we itch?

There are many things that can not be factually explained.
Im not going to continue arguing your fantasy bullshit. Seek help please.
(09-13-2025, 10:38 PM)Heiden Wrote: Im not going to continue arguing your fantasy bullshit. Seek help please.

Hey! I wanna need to seek help too!!!

I've read A LOT about in utero hormone levels too!

Like if the mother has an overactive thyroid and gets prescribed hormones to get that under control it raises the likelihood of androgynous traits in the fetus...

Now... look at your hand...

*these are averages, not black/white

And yes, it is science! Just not any you'd bother to read.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11910785/
Quote:There is indirect evidence that heightened exposure to early androgen may increase the probability that a girl will develop a homosexual orientation in adulthood. One such putative marker of early androgen exposure is the ratio of the length of the index finger (2D) to the ring finger (4D), which is smaller in male humans than in females, and is smaller in lesbians than in heterosexual women. Yet there is also evidence that women may have different sexual orientations at different times in their lives, which suggests that other influences on female sexual orientation, presumably social, are at work as well. We surveyed individuals from a gay pride street fair and found that lesbians who identified themselves as "butch" had a significantly smaller 2D:4D than did those who identified themselves as "femme."  We conclude that increased early androgen exposure plays a role in only some cases of female homosexuality, and that the sexual orientation of "femme" lesbians is unlikely to have been influenced by early androgens.

Summary of conclusion: The most masculine are the most exposed in utero, the most naturally gay, and vice-versa. 

Its neither nature nor nurture exclusively.  But where "butch" (read as transgender) traits are concerned, it's more inherent (read as natural) than the born-again "femme" lesbian in her 20s..

And here's some charts! :)
 
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Question(s):

Why do homosexual men have shorter ratios like heterosexual women, and why do homosexual women have ratios closer to heterosexual men?

Bonus question!

Why do the most masculine women have the most male 2D/4D ratio?

 It's like... there may be something (spectrum-related) to it that gets dismissed as to not be made uncomfortable by what it says.
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