Heaven

[LightAngel]

  

[chr0naut]

Heaven is where the God of creation, love, music, nature, sex et al habitats and you think it is all  going to be empty, bit silly in my opinion

The Talking Heads song, to me, is expounding the attitude of atemporality that the occupants of heaven must have.

Think of how 'temporal notions' might appear in heaven.

Things can happen as quickly or as slowly as anyone wanted to experience them. Days and nights are indistinguishable (Revelation 21:23-25, 22:5). Life itself has no limit anymore.

What is a mere moment in an eternity of moments?

"Heaven is a party, and everyone is there, and everybody leaves at exactly the same time."

[chr0naut]

Heaven, to me, is the place where we return home after our souls have experienced physical life, love, pain and suffering. We return home and find our loved ones, entities that we have been bonded with for ages and we reconnect and share our experiences together from our time in the school of hard knocks. Both here on earth and other worlds.

I believe that we return home and continue to grow and learn in order to advance our souls closer to the source, the creator.

My beliefs are unencumbered by organized religions and proselytizing, but are the result of many years of research and inward thought.

My 2 pesos…

Tecate

The universe/s is/are a continuum.

A diversification of species and then elevation as they mature.

The responsibility to guide the new species falls to those already uplifted.

Beyond matter and its inevitable decay and entropic death...

Forever, but without mere repetition only.

[midicon]

The Talking Heads song, to me, is expounding the attitude of atemporality that the occupants of heaven must have.

Think of how 'temporal notions' might appear in heaven.

Things can happen as quickly or as slowly as anyone wanted to experience them. Days and nights are indistinguishable (Revelation 21:23-25, 22:5). Life itself has no limit anymore.

What is a mere moment in an eternity of moments?

"Heaven is a party, and everyone is there, and everybody leaves at exactly the same time."


The universe/s is/are a continuum.

A diversification of species and then elevation as they mature.

The responsibility to guide the new species falls to those already uplifted.

Beyond matter and its inevitable decay and entropic death...

Forever, but without mere repetition only.

You appear to know a lot about heaven! Have you been there?

[chr0naut]

You appear to know a lot about heaven! Have you been there?

I assume so. I have no recollection about being there any more, but I remember remembering, or it was a fantasy. I was different.

[midicon]

I assume so. I have no recollection about being there any more, but I remember remembering, or it was a fantasy. I was different.

Your posts suggested some sort of knowledge. If you have no recollection how can you comment?

All you have is an opinion nothing more. Which is fine.

I am curious about your 'recollection' and comment regarding that. In what way were you different?

I have my own thoughts about heaven and memory, that's why I ask.

You also say 'or it was a fantasy'. Does that men your comments might really just be based on a fantasy.

[LightAngel]

I believe Heaven is a place in the afterlife.  As others have said, this is where we would go to meet God, return the the light...or whatever you believe.  

I do not believe Heaven is something we can experience here on this earth.  Yes, you can achieve a state of euphoria or blissful happiness but I don't think it compares to the feeling of Heaven.  Of course, these could be human feelings and then all bets are off.

If you want to go biblical, there cannot be Heaven here as the devil holds dominion over the earth.  Not until the second coming and the thousand year peace would that be possible.

I love your thoughts.

I only have a problem with you blaming the devil because doesn't humanity have free will?

Can't they just resist "evil"? 


By the way, I don't think the devil and lucifer and satan are the same?!

[chr0naut]

Your posts suggested some sort of knowledge. If you have no recollection how can you comment?

All you have is an opinion nothing more. Which is fine.

I am curious about your 'recollection' and comment regarding that. In what way were you different?

I have my own thoughts about heaven and memory, that's why I ask.

You also say 'or it was a fantasy'. Does that men your comments might really just be based on a fantasy.

There are philosophies and prophecies to guide you. However, people seem to miss that the scriptures don't describe the end. It is only just the barest beginning of forever...

I am prevented from explaining much more, beyond saying that it seems like a dream because I have been here for a lifetime.

The memories of memories come to me in recurring dreams. It all has a reason and there is an exactness to the way things keep playing out. There are things we must all do.

Is it delusion of grandure? I've seen them in others, but I don't think so, and I can't present any physical proofs.

Also, words fail me when I try and describe the memories before all this. It's like a crazy stream of feelings and images of things nothing like anything here.

Perhaps my mission is to say don't remain mute before the divine. Speak... And listen!

[andy06shake]

Here is a conduderum i have with the concept of Heaven.

From a Christian standpoint, the place is a monarchy.

There is no doubt about that fact. 

I just have to ponder how that sits with certain people who have been known to take issue with such a type of rule?

[midicon]

There are philosophies and prophecies to guide you. However, people seem to miss that the scriptures don't describe the end. It is only just the barest beginning of forever...

I am prevented from explaining much more, beyond saying that it seems like a dream because I have been here for a lifetime.

The memories of memories come to me in recurring dreams. It all has a reason and there is an exactness to the way things keep playing out. There are things we must all do.

Is it delusion of grandure? I've seen them in others, but I don't think so, and I can't present any physical proofs.

Also, words fail me when I try and describe the memories before all this. It's like a crazy stream of feelings and images of things nothing like anything here.

Perhaps my mission is to say don't remain mute before the divine. Speak... And listen!

Thanks for replying although you have essentially said nothing. It would appear that you don't know anything about heaven at all. Those 'philosophies and prophecies' don't seem to have led you anywhere yet you say they can guide me?

It's all just silly self aggrandisation we both know that, a pity really, had you answered differently we might have had a conversation. 

I didn't ask for physical proof, why would I expect that? You made some assertions about 'heaven' and I ask how you came to that conclusion. It wasn't a trick question. You answer memories of memories in dreams.

To be honest I expected you would have nothing anyway, so it says something about me that I would even engage you. Perhaps in some way I feel a need to feel superior, I don't know. I did want to chat a little about heaven but there are no dancers here.

I could make an assertion about heaven but it would be from my own experience and not from someone else's philosophy, prophecy or even, dare I say it, from a book.