Has Ukraine collapsed

[Maxmars]

Yeah, that's why their 10 day special operations turned into a nearly 4 year war   

Well... not meaning to argue against you point... but really, how much more money can you launder in war?

A ten days war wouldn't feed the "market."

4-years?  Now that's profit!

[Kurokage]

Well... not meaning to argue against you point... but really, how much more money can you launder in war?

A ten days war wouldn't feed the "market."

4-years?  Now that's profit!

And who's laundering money at the cost of lives? Let me guess, you think it's all Ukraine or the west??

I see lots of people saying Ukraine is guilty of this that and the other, but this war is only happening because Putin invaded, no other reason! Ukraine was free to court E.U. membership or even NATO because it was a free sovereign nation, not a puppet state of Russia.
Are there crooked people filling their pockets because of this war? Of course there is, on all sides, but name any part of humanity that doesn't have crooks and conmen trying to weasel in.

I've said many times, the corruption in Ukraine is there also due to corruption before the fall of the USSR and then Russian oligarchs. The ex-prime minster who fled to Russia is wanted on a INTERPOL red notice for corruption and money laundering.

[UltraBudgie]

I've said many times, the corruption in Ukraine is there also due to corruption before the fall of the USSR and then Russian oligarchs. The ex-prime minster who fled to Russia is wanted on a INTERPOL red notice for corruption and money laundering.

He's also the one who tried to blame the Bidens, right?

https://www.jpost.com/international/ukra...-pm-603155

[Kurokage]

He's also the one who tried to blame the Bidens, right?

https://www.jpost.com/international/ukra...-pm-603155

Get a broken link from your post 

It works now??

He was also accusing Zelensky, whilst having being accused of corruption himself. He's also been accused of aiding Russian special forces in spreading fake news, Azarov uses his own Telegram and YouTube channels to do so.

Trying to find the facts/truth in all this is difficult, and is easy to get swallowed up by propaganda, but that doesn't negate the fact that Putin invaded and the one trying to remove the Ukrainian people and identity.
If the Ukrainian people stop fighting and give into Putin, this will be Holodomor 2.0.

[LightAngel]

I wish all the soldiers would just stop fighting each other.

Because then our leaders would have to fight each other if they wanted the war to continue.

[IDELB2006]

He's also the one who tried to blame the Bidens, right?

https://www.jpost.com/international/ukra...-pm-603155

That's the same person that is hiding in Russia from Ukraine prosecution for treason. He might say anything to muddy the waters

Link

[UltraBudgie]

Anything to muddy the waters

"Hey look, the water's muddy!"

"What water?"

[IDELB2006]

"Hey look, the water's muddy!"

"What water?"

From your link:

Ukraine must investigate Joe Biden's son, says ex-Ukrainian PM

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Of course if you had some other point to make from the article, you could try explaining it.

[quintessentone]

The negotiations seem dependent on what gains/losses are made on the battlefield or how many of Putin's tankers get destroyed. Now Zelensky won't give up any land but will give up NATO membership.

[Nerb]

I wish all the soldiers would just stop fighting each other.

Because then our leaders would have to fight each other if they wanted the war to continue.

As long as frontline soldiers are Men, wars will be fought down to the last one.