Feds to take control of 2000 Cali National Guardsmen for anti ICE riots

[worldstarcountry]

You are either with the Fascists or your're against them .
There is nothing left to debate here, Trump is going full Dictator,
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Shame on you who support this piece of shit. 
you've lost your country to a Fascist regime

No sir you are the liar. California, as well as a select other number  of specific states and primarily urban centers have a central rot that has corrupted many of the institutions from public service to academics against the Capitalist Republic of the United States of America. They have been compromised by Chinese and European Union spies. The New unholy alliance in the third world war of the shadow 4th Reich, also known as the World Economic Forum, and the Chinese Communists have been pooling their resources to basically purchase the "recruit Partisans" feature in Civilization and directed it against the United States.

Frankly, much of it begins when the current top leaders were but city council man/women or low  level local officials, and then get recruited with sex and money by the spies as well as the Drug Cartels because the drug cartels are a big piece of the deep state asset sheet. Then they move up just one notch, scratch the next person's back on the way up, rinse and repeat. After two generations an entire municipality has been absorbed by agents of foreign governments and terrorist organizations. The only way to purge that rot is to begin arresting low level officials who are tired of this extortion organization that  basically secures its political army through extortion and blackmale, and the ground troops with outright cash through the NGO's.

The media also plays a big rule. This Deep State thing is not just the US government, it is an abomination that spans the globe and encompasses many entities. Right now it is scraping the Soros/Rothschild/Euro-Royal war chest of philanthropy for financing, China is providing intelligence as well as financing through Neville Singham and likely has the crazy Walton heiress on their payroll as well. She may not be involved with Wal-mart operations, but certainly a big part of her fortune is tied to Wal-Mart profits, something a Chinese spy is trained to beat  her over the head about.

I would like to see more crackdowns, I want to see politicians arrested for their dereliction of duty, for working for the enemy and taking their money. Judges, politicians, crooked sheriffs' anybody who foreign spies and transnational trafficking gangs have convinced with cash that they are above the law. it is glvoes off time. I want to see helicopters firing in the middle of the night in urban cities all over the country just like the Jade Helm Obama purges the deep state played off as national training exercises. Time to purge out the purgers, chase them into the sea if we have to and throw cement blocks on them.

America will not submit to this declaration of war by Communist China, new Nazi(WEF) rulers of the EU, and their drug cartel pit bulls. The leash is off, and it is time for America to seek justice for these crimes of subterfuge, sabotage, and treachery!

[quintessentone]

I think the Feds need to get out of sanctuary cities/states and clean up their own red states where the people do desperately want it. Just stay out of those states if you have problems with it.

[DBCowboy]

I think the Feds need to get out of sanctuary cities/states and clean up their own red states where the people do desperately want it. Just stay out of those states if you have problems with it.

Ummmmmmmm. it's called the "United" states for a reason.

Might want to read something other than a little Red Book.

[quintessentone]

Ummmmmmmm. it's called the "United" states for a reason.

Might want to read something other than a little Red Book.

Your country is definitely not united in any way.

[quintessentone]

Interview with the LA Mayor.

[DBCowboy]

Your country is definitely not united in any way.

Nope, you're right.  The communists have taken over portions of our country

[DBCowboy]

Interview with the LA Mayor.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo5vAwhHswY]

If you get rid of fire fighters, you'll have less fires.

Le derp

[quintessentone]

Nope, you're right.  The communists have taken over portions of our country

And have the fascists taken over the other portions?

[DBCowboy]

And have the fascists taken over the other portions?

Nope, just people who want a Constitutional Republic

[putnam6]

If Trump is anything, he is a FINO, as in Fascist In Name Only, because it's the only trigger word Maxine Waters and most Democrats semi know the definition of...

Arguments Against Labeling Trump as a Fascist: Others argue that calling Trump a fascist overstates the case and dilutes the term’s meaning:

• Lack of Ideological Cohesion: Fascism is a structured ideology with clear tenets, whereas Trump’s approach is often described as opportunistic or chaotic rather than ideologically driven. His policies (e.g., tax cuts, deregulation) align more with traditional conservatism than fascist state control.
  
• Democratic Context: Trump operated within a democratic system with checks and balances. He left office after losing the 2020 election, unlike fascist leaders who typically seize power indefinitely. His legal battles (e.g., impeachments, indictments) show institutions holding him accountable.
  
• No Militarized State: Fascist regimes rely on state-controlled militias or armies to suppress dissent. While Trump praised law enforcement and military, he didn’t establish a centralized paramilitary force like the Nazi SA or Mussolini’s Blackshirts.
  
• Free Speech and Media: Despite his attacks on the press, Trump didn’t implement systematic censorship or state control of media, as seen in fascist regimes. Independent media outlets thrived during his presidency, and he used platforms like Twitter (now X) to communicate directly, not state propaganda.
  
• Hyperbole in Criticism: Some argue that labeling Trump a fascist is a rhetorical tool used by opponents to demonize him, pointing out that his supporters see him as a defender of individual liberties against “woke” authoritarianism.
  

Nuanced Perspective: Most scholars and historians hesitate to call Trump a fascist outright, as the term implies a specific historical and ideological framework that doesn’t fully fit. However, some describe him as having “fascistic” or “authoritarian populist” tendencies, blending nationalism, anti-elitism, and strongman rhetoric without the full apparatus of fascism. For example, his use of divisive language and willingness to undermine democratic norms raise legitimate concerns, but the absence of a totalitarian state or systematic violence sets him apart from historical fascists.
What Sources Say:

• Web Sources: Articles from outlets like The Guardian (2023) and Jacobin (2022) argue Trump’s actions, especially around January 6, show fascistic traits, while others, like a 2024 piece from The Atlantic, caution against overuse of the term, suggesting “authoritarian” is more accurate.
  
• X Posts: Recent posts (as of June 2025) show polarized views. Some users call Trump a fascist, citing his 2024 campaign rhetoric about “retribution” and pardoning January 6 rioters. Others defend him, arguing his policies reflect populist conservatism, not fascism, and accuse critics of exaggerating for political gain.
  
• Historians: Experts like Ruth Ben-Ghiat (author of Strongmen) note parallels between Trump and authoritarian leaders but stop short of labeling him a fascist, emphasizing context matters.
  

Conclusion: Trump’s behavior and rhetoric share some traits with fascism—nationalism, attacks on institutions, and a cult-like following—but he lacks the ideological rigidity, state-controlled violence, and total suppression of dissent that define historical fascism. Terms like “authoritarian populist” or “illiberal democrat” may better capture his approach. The label “fascist” risks oversimplification, but concerns about his impact on democratic norms are valid given events like January 6. Ultimately, the debate reflects deep political divisions, with each side interpreting his actions through their own lens.