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02-17-2026, 06:54 AM
This post was last modified: 02-17-2026, 06:55 AM by midicon. 
(02-17-2026, 05:58 AM)Karl12 Wrote: No they don't but as literally nobody seems to know exactly what's going on I thought I'd post the 'plasma affecting observer' video.
Several 'metallic' objects also observed in the 1978 Argentine flap (and the Perez case does look to contain shamanistic aspects) so maybe 'whatever it is' can cause humans to see 'whatever they want'.
I think the idea of fairies and UFOs springs originally from magic mushrooms and the psychedelic experience thereof.
The old folklore and legends surrounding fairy circles have merely morphed into the modern age. I think you mentioned the word luminous in the OP, I'd have used the word numinous perhaps. Lost time and trips with the little people are subjective projections on reality.
We are all being played and distracted by nonsense. People want the dream, they want to believe. This reality will never be enough for some. People want more, such is the way!
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(02-17-2026, 05:58 AM)Karl12 Wrote: No not being hasty mate and suppose the reason it's a mixed bag is because it's referencing specific descriptions of 'unidentified flying objects'.
Some scientist opinions here (as well as gov) on the general phenomenon but are you more focused in on the high strangeness reports?
You never seem to explain what you're on about so it can be a bit tricky to format a relevant reply.
No they don't but as literally nobody seems to know exactly what's going on I thought I'd post the 'plasma affecting observer' video.
Several 'metallic' objects also observed in the 1978 Argentine flap (and the Perez case does look to contain shamanistic aspects) so maybe 'whatever it is' can cause humans to see 'whatever they want'.
yeah sorry, what iIm on about changes by the minute. Currently those fireballs flying around are interesting, I see there is more reports popping up, recent sightings. Just wanted to chip in on the faerie stuff. The mystical orbs and entities that get's describe as plasma (light entities, spirts, ghost, fairies whatever) are not like those fireballs that is actual plasma...two separate phenomena and one scares the military the other doesn't.
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(02-17-2026, 06:55 AM)Sirius Wrote: The mystical orbs and entities that get's describe as plasma (light entities, spirts, ghost, fairies whatever) are not like those fireballs that is actual plasma...two separate phenomena and one scares the military the other doesn't.
Appreciate the clarification mate - realize this is a messy subject but there has been freaky (and similar) global UFO reports in which objects are observed to morph to change shape, duplicate, disappear, reappear, appear from light forms, change into light forms etc.
Here's one account from England where two glowing balls of light turned into two large black triangular objects which then 'elongated their own shape'.
• Monmouth, England, September 26th, 2008 .
Don't know if there's some sort of bizarre projection technology involved but (crazy as it sounds) mysterious balls of light are also reported accompanying cryptids.
Here's a typical report.
In fact balls of light do appear in everything right across the supra-normal spectrum from cryptids and UFOs right through to poltergeists and physical apparitions.
Witnesses of any of the above also sometimes report the same specific odours, high pitched sounds, feelings of detachment, trance like states etc.
Don't know if human consciousness is being manipulated but wouldn't rule it out.
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(02-17-2026, 10:07 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Appreciate the clarification mate - realize this is a messy subject but there has been freaky (and similar) global UFO reports in which objects are observed to morph to change shape, duplicate, disappear, reappear, appear from light forms, change into light forms etc.
Here's one account from England where two glowing balls of light turned into two large black triangular objects which then 'elongated their own shape'.
Don't know if there's some sort of bizarre projection technology involved but (crazy as it sounds) mysterious balls of light are also reported accompanying cryptids.
Here's a typical report.
In fact balls of light do appear in everything right across the supra-normal spectrum from cryptids and UFOs right through to poltergeists and physical apparitions.
Witnesses of any of the above also sometimes report the same specific odours, high pitched sounds, feelings of detachment, trance like states etc.
Don't know if human consciousness is being manipulated but wouldn't rule it out.
What about thinking in lines of factions? I just can't lump everything together, it's not useful and leaves gaps and vulnerabilities and blind spots. We have to label and give attributes at some point. It's just data until we gather information from it and it has high entropy at the moment so that is difficult.
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02-17-2026, 07:18 PM
This post was last modified: 02-17-2026, 07:27 PM by Darkorange. 
(02-17-2026, 02:14 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Not really mate, it sounds a bit of a mouthful but he's more going on about 'localized transient intrusions of manifesting intelligent energies' and how physicists suspect plasma may be some sort of lifeform.
i understand. i don't believe in plasma live forms. i simply thought there should be a frequency,...frequency where we humans are in sync with cosmos and on which 'visitors' actively scanning for that particular 'soul call' signal with a message.
Meditations, rituals are all the same to put ones mind into the state of tuning to that frequency. my quest was partially successful in making myself heard but that either gone or visitors cannot reply at this moment in time)) haha...or may be they are replying and it's just me not recognizing it yet.
thanks for voicing opinion.
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(02-17-2026, 07:18 PM)Darkorange Wrote: I don't believe in plasma live forms.
But they believe in you lol.
Only joking mate and reckon you're right about frequency playing an intrinsic role somehow - have heard it said the UFO phenomenon is 'camouflaged by absurdity' so open discussion about some of the weirder aspects can only be a good thing.
Regarding the conscious frequency of the observer have read that UFO witnesses experience more of a Theta brainwave state (but don't know how true that is) - the frequency of periodical UFO 'flaps' also looks to be a factor but never heard a good explanation as to why.
Who knows maybe we're in one big simulation and the paranormal is just a Catfish programme to keep everyone's imagination active and curious.
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(02-17-2026, 09:50 PM)Karl12 Wrote: But they believe in you lol.
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That just reminded me of the old adage about whether the human dreams of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreams of the human.
Do human 'exists' or is 'existence' itself 'exists' because 'something' believes in it? Or imagining it? Or 'existence' imagining itself?
Or some 'Watchers' watching a 'reality TV show'?
Maybe they can 'interact' or 'influence' the 'show' when proper 'context' is present?
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
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(02-18-2026, 10:29 AM)IgnorantGod Wrote: Maybe they can 'interact' or 'influence' the 'show' when proper 'context' is present?
Some nice philosophical musings there mate and in case after case UFOs do appear to select the observer (and also choose how and where they are seen).
Also remember some freaky researcher accounts from Marley Woods seemingly involving 'directional' light beams where luminous objects could be seen from one vantage point but not another.
Maybe they're looking at us from a different dimensional perspective like we see fish in a pond lol.
Anyway guess nobody really knows the true nature of reality or time or consciousness and we could be standing on the tip of a very large iceberg.
Regarding spacetime do remember Stephen Hawkings having to admit he got it all wrong (and reverse his opinion) when he rather flippantly dismissed 'time travel'.
According to his 'cosmology protection conjecture' he initially denied the possibility because ' we have not been invaded by hordes of tourists from the future'.
Is it just me or couldn't that description just be used rather well to describe the entirety of the UFO phenomenon?
Quote:The embarrassing thing, however, was that no matter how hard physicists tried, they could not find a law to prevent time travel.
Apparently, time travel seems to be consistent with the known laws of physics. Unable to find any physical law that makes time travel impossible,
Hawking recently changed his mind. He made headlines when he said, 'Time travel may be possible, but it is not practical..'
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Perhaps the their is - in some context - an actual 'ability' to experience these entities(?) inherent in the human species...
Even further, there may be some 'entities' that have the 'ability' to 'be seen' by humans...
If so, our observations seem not to focus on why some people can apparently 'summon' ufo encounters, or 'evoke' phenomenon outside the normal.
Ultimately, it may be a matter of serendipity and synchronicity to have the kind of experience we see in such cases...
But the 'optics' of the encounter drives everything we speculate about...
Maybe it actually is essentially "all one thing" humans might be experiencing... something about what being human translates into in the universal nature in which we live.
Muh.... I want Karl's threads to never end...
Please allow me the peace of mind that all is archived, someday maybe to be shared again...
this is all I ask.
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(02-18-2026, 02:07 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Please allow me the peace of mind that all is archived, someday maybe to be shared again...
Unfortunately not mate - this is one of the last decent UFO forums on the internet so it's a great shame.
Some great threads by some very knowledgeable members (whatever their position) so sad to see it all go.
Remember Isaac had the wherewithal (and tech prowess) to save many UFO threads from ATS when all this happened last time.
Will try to contact in the hopes he will step in again before everything gets deleted again.
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