Faerie UFO Connection.

[IgnorantGod]

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Steve Stockton also recounts a very strange sixteenth century Fae story here (from 14:20) where a young woman was approached by 'men in green' and abducted to a 'castle in the sky' so looks like the 'little green men' archetype was alive and kicking even back then.


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That part made me wonder if 'ideas' or 'archetypes' could have 'time' independency. That is, all potential ideas of a species are somewhat available from the start, and that perspectives and context defines the specification of the archetype used to communicate something.

Or, there's actually 'little green men' roaming around for millenias lol, dunno.

[Karl12]

Or, there's actually 'little green men' roaming around for millenias lol

Well truth is definitely stranger than fiction lol.

Always liked these little green chaps under a 'mushroom' UFO and the rock 'stopping in mid air' is similar to a Wyoming case where a hunter's bullet was said to do the same thing.

More info on that case here and the whole encounter has distinct Fae overtones like severe disorientation in the woods, the Oz factor, missing time, food offerings etc.

God knows what's going on but there are loads (and loads) of different globally reported UFO occupant flavours and curiously enough 'grays' didn't pop up until fairly recently:

During the sixties and even early to middle 80’s, the “grays” were not yet your stereotypical ‘aliens.’ Sure many of the encounters reported were with short humanoid-type creatures, but that was the only resemblance to the Hollywood portrayed gray alien.

All that glitters is not gray

Regarding Fae archetypes and 'directed' themes then also thought this lady raised a really relevant point about 'glamour' and could be that 'all bets are off' when it comes to observation.

• "When you add in the folklore about faeries able to do 'glamour' which is a specific type of enchantment that basically messes with a human's perception on all levels: smell, taste, sight, hearing.. when you get that into the mix then all bets are off for whether anything you're seeing is actually what you are seeing."

Researcher Morgan Daimler.

That description does sound suspiciously like UFO alien 'screen memory' shenanigans and wouldn't be surprised if the same thing (whatever it is) is being defined.

[Karl12]

That part made me wonder if 'ideas' or 'archetypes' could have 'time' independency. That is, all potential ideas of a species are somewhat available from the start, and that perspectives and context defines the specification of the archetype used to communicate something.

Could well be mate and 'time' seems to be a fairly big player in both Fae and UFO subjects - almost as if players in both are acting independently of it.

Not sure what it's got to do with specific archetypes but did you ever catch this quote from researcher Marc Davenport - have posted it before but it definitely seemed relevant.



From 2:30

:• "My hypothesis is that these people who operate these ships - their technology is so advanced that actually figured out a way to artificially warp space-time, the way a black hole does naturally.

And, if that's true it could mean that they could be coming here not only from other planets but from other star systems, other galaxies, other dimensions that coexist with ours, parallel universes, even our own future or our own past.

We have the occupants of these craft are continualy telling people - they ask them questions like what time is it, what is time, what is your time, what is age, what is a year and they say 'You are caught in time and we're not - our time is different from yours'.

Time is distorted in the vicinity of these craft and inside these craft - a lot of time people's watches will stop, we have people who say that their voices are distorted when they're near these craft like when they breathe helium or something. So we have all sorts of indications that these things are in some kind of a field that warps space and time."

Marc Davenport.

[IgnorantGod]

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Regarding Fae archetypes and 'directed' themes then also thought this lady raised a really relevant point about 'glamour' and could be that 'all bets are off' when it comes to observation.

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That description does sound suspiciously like UFO alien 'screen memory' shenanigans and wouldn't be surprised if the same thing (whatever it is) is being defined.

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Well, when discussing the phenomena and 'high strangeness', I've stopped using the 'real'/'unreal' duality, since it's mostly not helpful.

Because at the end of the day, does it matter if an hallucination is an 'hallucination' or not? That is 'unreal'. To me it doesn't, since even if an hallucination is only seen by one person, that person reaction, and the potential other people reacting to the initial person's reaction to its hallucination are 'real'. There is a 'reality footprint'. Even if the content of the hallucination is made up by the person, there are effects that 'spread' outside.

And then, our concept of 'reality' is fundamentally argumentum ad populum fallacy, but is there anything else to go with? So basically, to me, interactions seem more 'real' than the actors. I see this as interactions define context, and thus, ultimately, the actors.

[Karl12]

Yes well.said mate - South African UFO researcher Cynthia Hind describes a case below where workers witnessed a ball of light 'walking down a wall' which then transformed into three figures dressed in silver shiny suits with 'brilliant light emanating from their heads'.

Rather than 'space aliens' perhaps witness Clifford Muchena was right about it having more to do with his ancestors and Zimbabwean folklore.

[Karl12]

Do like delving into some of the more bizarre global UFO/shamanic folklore accounts and there are some freaky reports linked below of tiny Malaysian critters who cause paralysis with 'beams of light' and carry 'steel-like rods'.

Summary: While other countries have been experiencing close encounters with humanoids of diversified forms, I would like to draw attention to the reports in Malaysia where humanoid encounters have been confined to only one type – tiny entities measuring from 3 inches to 6 inches in height. Though reports of the other UFO categories bear similarity to the global sightings, encounters with humanoids in Malaysia on the record so far are in a class of their own.

Ahmad Jamaludin - author of 'A Summary of Unidentified Flying Objects and Related Events in Malaysia (1950-1980)' published by CUFOS.

Humanoid Encounters In Malaysia

There's also Nepalese folklore about forest dwelling (Sasquatch like) 'Ban Jhakris' who abduct children underground and instruct them in the arts of shamanism - they are also said to 'have their feet on backwards' which pops up time and again in other global folklore.

The Yeti, and the Ban Jhakri ("Forest Shaman") in Nepalese Shamanism*

The ban jhakri (jungle/forest shaman) of the Himalayas is a spirit, a god of the shamans, and a creature said to be partially human. They are sort of gnome, yoda-type figures, tricksters, and shamanic teacher/initiators. The banjhakri is the Nepali name given to the small yeti (three to five feet tall) whose red or golden hair covers his entire body except for face and hands. According to legend, ban jhakri live in forests and caves and kidnap young candidates, typically between seven and twenty years of age, to initiate into shamanism. Only those youths who are chokho (pure) in body and heart are retained for teaching, ideally for thirty days, before being returned to the place from which they were initially abducted.

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Across the board in folklore abduction the majority who return are in a 'blank, trance like state of extreme confusion' which is also reported a lot in today's UFO/Missing411 accounts.

Could be absolutely nothing but there's also Skogrsa who shapeshift into owls (which are a staple of UFO lore) and it's the job of the Phi sukuk to 'teach humans the lessons they need so they can get out of the cycle of reincarnation'.

Also found it a bit creepy that the Welsh Saleerandees and Arabic Salamanders resemble 'bipedal lizards' and don't like humans very much lol.

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Ive always been interested in "The Tuatha Dé Danann." 

[Karl12]

Ive always been interested in "The Tuatha Dé Danann." 

Definitely some intriguing ancestral mythology mate with notable similarities to Greek, Indian and Norse legends.

Found it interesting the Tuatha Dé Danann were said to travel in 'a cloud of dark mist' or in self propelled ships 'powered by their own winds'.

Apparently they also possessed supra-normal powers which gave them the ability to shapeshift and control the weather which lines up so well with other global folklore - also probably just coincidence that they controlled the seasons with a 'harp' lol.

Obviously lots of deep connections to the underground or 'otherworld' which is described as 'a mystical realm which exists parallel to the human world' so definitely very interesting stuff.

Don't know what you make of the thread or the apparent connected parallels to modern day UFO lore but there's a lot of speculation out there that we may be interacting with inhabitants of a different plane not planet.

[Karl12]

When it comes to contact with anomalous entities thought British diplomat Gordon Creighton gave a good interview back in 1977.

He shows the Hopkinsville UFO 'goblin' sketch from back in 1955 and reckons all this 'is a very serious matter'.

According to Gordon:

"Unquestionably something very extraordinary is going on and unquestionably it's a very bewildering mystery".









The Hopkinsville case is definitely a rather freaky one and involves a 'bright, silvery saucer shaped object' trailing multi coloured lights and several small beings with big round eyes and pointed ears wearing silver uniforms.


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Found it interesting there were parallels to the Flatwoods UFO case involving claims of the beings floating, glowing and 'light emitting from their eyes' but guess nobody will ever know what truly went on.

[Karl12]

Similar to the Hopkinsville case there's also this one from Africa involving flashes of multi coloured lights and a silver ellipsoid shaped object landing at Ariel primary school in Rua, Zimbabwe.

Children witnessed small creatures with big heads, pale faces and 'big black eyes' levitating in the schoolyard - one student also reported a flute like sound.

Telepathic visions were also reported by the children as well as time dilation anomalies where 'time seemed to have slowed down immensely'.

The Ruwa incident, also known as the Ariel School case, involved 64 children who had interaction with beings that telepathically conveyed apocalyptic messages.

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Ye olde Fae were extremely well known for taking a keen interest in young folk and Preston Dennett has now compiled over hundred documented cases of UFOs over schools.