Disclosure has begun

[KTemplar]

That's not my experiences with them, but there are many different them, so how can you know whether they are your friend or not if you don't talk to them to understand them?

I too have blocked memories because it is a difficult reality to acknowledge and accept, but I have managed to work through it over the last 40 years.

Greys are not huge creatures...do they have mechanical robots?...maybe.

Maybe that is why disclosure will be a slow drip.

I believe I have had encounters with angels/saints and greys and some bipedal being.

The angels I encountered surprised me but I felt Love in their presence.

The grey scared me into a state of shock that lasted for days.  I was 12 so I was younger.    I’ve noticed when they are around electrical problems and serious harm can follow.  My car once completely died during a snowstorm, literally I had to replace the battery, alternator, starter.  My phone died, luckily I got a hold of my sister who came to me and we waited over 5 hours for AAA, who later claimed they didn’t see us.    Phones that dial by themselves in the wall right before I was almost beaten to death by an old boyfriend whose eyes turned all black.  Three knocks on the ceiling of your house, and unarmed alarms sounding off so loud the police show up.  TVs turning off and on while your dog is growling at it, then your neighbor says she saw a ufo over your mailbox.

Another neighbor or mine in AZ swore she saw a ufo over my house and she NEVER went in the house again.  Hauntings and scary things seem to coexist with these things. Why would I want to communicate with it.  

The angels left me feeling loved and watched over.

[Astyanax]

I was responding to you not understanding a book you referenced...

You appear not to understand that it is a work of fiction, and what that implies.
 

The governments know more than they are lettig on but also don't know what they are dealing with. They are trying as hard as they can to not admit anything. They are throwing everything including the kitchen sink out to the public calling it new informatikn just to confuse the situation by letting everyons imagination run wild. 

Now do you get what I am trying to say?

Yes. I get that you have made up your own story and you’re sticking to it. And if it doesn’t correspond to reality, then so much the worse for reality. Enough arguing; you’re obviously a UFO true believer and I have absolutely no interest in persuading you otherwise. I discovered long ago that arguing with the religious is a mug’s game.

[Astyanax]

One of the biggest problems with truly alien life is just recognizing it.

Correct.
 

We would only understand things similar to what we know on Earth.

Wrong.
 

We could mistake them for... energy fields, globs of goo, they could be something we never imagined.

It is possoble they could be only precieved as a cold feeling of dread to certain sensitive people. Does that would familiar?

The most important thing we need to admit is we don't know what form any space, deminsional, or other aliens could be in. 

Some may die on both sides just in what is a friendly introduction. Chemical, electrical or cultural incompatability comes to mind.

Most humans want to smile when greeting. That caused the first Klingon war with the Federation in Star Trek. Klingon culture considered showing teeth as a sign of aggression. And that is from aliens that mostly look like us.

What we don't know can kill us and them. All we know for certain now is we don't know what is out there. And also our governments are not helping with our curiosity about this subject.

All old hat, I’m afraid, and well understood by the scientific community. The problem is not with our concept of what potential alien ‘life’ or intelligence might look like, but that a fictitious cult narrative is driving public perceptions and policy responses within the public sphere. If the UFO cult didn’t exist it would make investigation and understanding of the UFO phenomenon much easier. Initiatives attempting to do so would find it a lot easier to draw on government  funding.

Unfortunately, the true believers will never be satisfied with a No. They will continue to insist that aliens are visiting Earth, and that the US and other world governments are engaged in covering up this fact. When the last grainy photo and sighting report and blurred strip of film has been made public and shown to be inconclusive or worse, the faithful will remain unconvinced, and carry on insisting on ‘disclosure’.

[Astyanax]

If you ask any abductee or contactee involved in the hybrid program...well there is their reality and we only have that to explain what is going on.

I have seen no evidence that anyone has ever been abducted or contacted by  aliens.

I just noticed that, in another post on the this thread, you stated that you had personal experience with aliens. I’m afraid that places the burden of proof on you. Before you expect any sceptical person to believe what you say, you will need to furnish reliable evidence of your encounter, expecting to have it mercilessly questioned for the sake of truth. If your  story cannot defend itself against such questioning, then obviously you will not be believed. If someone cannot prove that ‘their reality’ is actual reality, why should anyone believe them?
 

There could very well be other covert operations happening. It's a mystery, isn't it?

People love mysteries. That’s why we make them up all the time. Doesn’t make them real.

[Astyanax]

They can’t because they cannot retain physicality for long periods of time.  They want what we have, physicality imo, this is why the hybrid, skin graphs, cells are taken to achieve this.

Good intentioned beings wouldn’t lie or deceive.  They can morph, cloak, to deceive.  

They take what they can!  Calling on Jesus stops them in their tracks.

It is written the fallen one is the prince of the air.  

God and his angels can perform sightings and miracles too!

I went missing once for 6 hours after seeing a 3-4 ft grey fly right up to my face.  Whatever happened after that scared me so bad, that I blocked it out of my memory for years.  It appeared to my friend/neighbor that an airplane had crashed, when we got to the location, there was no plane, no crash of any kind.   What did appear was a bipedal huge creature walking through the woods, a mechanical? Looking flying robot at the top of the trees thst came flying at us.  Then the grey.  6 hours later, we showed up back home in a rainstorm in our bicycles missing our sneakers.  

That shit isn’t our friend!

Great story. Write it down in long form and you could make a bit of money.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Great story. Write it down in long form and you could make a bit of money.

What do you gain from shutting him down

[BeyondKnowledge]

The Terra Papers still make the most sense to me.

I am about half way through The Terra Papers. It does not match up with native American mythology at all. The stars are common Greek and Roman origins and associations. Not related to the native American beliefs at all. 

Serious is not related to dogs in native American stories but this book states the dog people come from there. 

Not a bad book and the author could be remembering stories he was told but they don't fit, unless his grandfather had secrets only his family knew from long ago and no other tribe knew them.

[BeyondKnowledge]

You appear not to understand that it is a work of fiction, and what that implies.
 

Yes I know it is fiction. I was trying to explain a few things using it as a common frame of reference as you brought it up first.

You seem to think of things only scientifically. This limits the discussion quite a bit. As this discussion is about a public release of information and not a scientific paper I think we need to include common peoples reactions and thoughts also. 

Yes, I do believe something we don't understand is encountered from time to time. I do not know if it is space aliens, deminsional bearings, some energy ameba, or something else. I am open to considering anything as there is no definite evidence one way or the other. It is just too common to be all made up or mass hallucinations, which some reports are. There are some that can't be explained. 

And yes, the UFO cults are not helping at all.

[Astyanax]

What do you gain from shutting him down

You're right, I'm being an asshole just to be an asshole.

[quintessentone]

I have seen no evidence that anyone has ever been abducted or contacted by  aliens.

I just noticed that, in another post on the this thread, you stated that you had personal experience with aliens. I’m afraid that places the burden of proof on you. Before you expect any sceptical person to believe what you say, you will need to furnish reliable evidence of your encounter, expecting to have it mercilessly questioned for the sake of truth. If your  story cannot defend itself against such questioning, then obviously you will not be believed. If someone cannot prove that ‘their reality’ is actual reality, why should anyone believe them?
 

People love mysteries. That’s why we make them up all the time. Doesn’t make them real.

As I stated before, people have different experiences and/or realities when it comes to extraterrestrial contact. If you have never had any experience then of course you will be a non-believer and that's fine, but you also can not prove others' experiences/realities are in fact delusions. So here we are.