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#11
(09-26-2025, 05:36 AM)ElitePlebeian Wrote: Its more that I believe he right about the bottomline, and if there are some examples he mentions, as an 80+ president of the top of his head without auto queue in an hour long speech, where hes wrong I wouldnt be surprised. But thats quite irrelevant to that bottomline hes trying to convey.

And again very often fact checks have been proven to be biased lies so Im not taking those quite irrelvant fact checks at face value.

Whereas Trump has been proven to lie nearly every time he opens his mouth. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_m...nald_Trump
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/fact-ch...s-debunked
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-507...conference
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fa...o-congress

Bottom line is that Trump tells lies as far as i can establish.

As to where he gets his facts, I'm wondering where you think that is?

And the fellows' age is only 79 not "80+".

Not that you don't raise a good point, people that age should not be put forward for positions of such power, down to the increased risks of cognitive decline and slow decision-making no matter which side of the political aisle they happen to strole.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#12
Ah ow just 79 ?..... Ye that really changes the whole point Im making. Lol

Again hes trying to convey a bottomline which is true and has far greater implications than if he in his hyperbolic style is not 100% right. 

Fact is he made peace deals, but to you it seems more important that he mentions the right country than that fact. And thats the case for most of these fact checks. Theyre pitty attacks that are quite meaningless.
#13
(09-26-2025, 05:54 AM)ElitePlebeian Wrote: Ah ow just 79 ?..... 

Again hes trying to convey a bottomline which is true and has far greater implications then if he in his hyperbolic style is not 100% right. 

Fact is he made peace deals, but to you it seems more important that he mentions the right country than that fact. And thats the case for most of these fact checks. Theyre pitty attacks that are quite meaningless.

The fact is the facts are against him, so....

As to him getting names correct, well, if he's going to claim to stop wars, surely he should know the names of the countries.

That's not a pity attack, but it is a display of senility and lies.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#14
If Trump warned you citing a study that paracetamol kills but he got the name of the study wrong you would continue taking paracetamol I guess.
#15
(09-26-2025, 05:57 AM)ElitePlebeian Wrote: If Trump warned you citing a study that paracetamol kills but he got the name of the study wrong you would continue taking paracetamol I guess.

What do you mean "if?"

He seems to have struggled with a few names. 

Tylenol is Paracetamol, and Trump did indeed tell everyone to stop taking it, especially pregnant women.




Despite it being around since the late 1800s.

And the study in question has been debunked about a 1000 times.

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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#16
Right says the fact checkers? Lol. And no he didnt say that everyone should stop using it. And no tylenol is not paracetamol. 

Even Tylenol themselves on Twitter are advising against the use during pregnancy.

Also great ignoring my point and changing the subject i pointed out; You ignore the bottomline of his warning in favor of a relatively small mistake or lie or whatever you want to call it.

And youre doing the exact same in this discussion, so its a bit of a waste of time.
#17
https://xkcd.com/954/
I was not here.
#18
(09-26-2025, 05:22 AM)andy06shake Wrote: But you trust Trump because he gets his facts from.....

Where would that be exactly? 

What about the words that utter forth from his own mouth, which are clearly wrong? 

Like claiming he ended a war between countries that are 4000 miles apart for instance.  Saint2

https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/211161...ending-war


Does anyone trust any politician?

Quote:Joe Biden: If I'm elected, we're going to cure cancer


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019...th-vpx.cnn

one can only go by policy and voting records.

Trump to some including me puts the US government on a road of sustainability.  Democrats the road of ruin followed by many nations in the past.
#19
(09-26-2025, 04:46 AM)Sirius Wrote: I am from the rest of the world..

How odd. Apparently your lived experience is only considered relevant to the extent that it can be bolster a political narrative or advance useless partisan bickering.

Who would have thought. These online communities really are fake and sad sometimes, aren't they?
#20
(09-26-2025, 06:01 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Tylenol

I don’t take Tylenol since the early 2000s from my uncle dying from having Tylenol destroy his liver. There are pros and dangers to any medication.



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