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#31
(09-30-2025, 11:34 AM)AnAlternateOpinion Wrote: So, with Zuckerberg’s Meta/Facebook and Musk’s X/Twitter already long on-board, now you’ve got the TikToc algorithm in the hands of Oracle’s Larry Ellison & Netanyahu’s data center in Israel all conveniently feeding wackjob Peter Thiel’s Palantir everything you say or have ever said. Not that this is anything new but with this increased AI scrutiny and a yummy new list of disallowed list of things you say and think, you’d best mind your Ps and Qs or the man be knocking on your door.

Now you’ve also got YouTube opening back up to all the de-platformed loonies and you just know they’re going rile people up to use this as a honeypot.

I think if I was a user of the TikTok platform, at this point in time I’d feel safer having my data going to China?

Is it all looking somewhat ruling the world and clamping down on dissent tactics, as well as keeping filthy rich elite protected from being accountable for crimes and misdemeanors, or ... leftist?

Peter Thiel is named in the new batch of Epstein documents going to that island of horrors for young children.

Musk is orchestrating a telecommunications monopoly to have full control by creating an international satellite to device connection, thereby bypassing country's laws.

TikTok will have special algorithms North Korean style.

As for YouTube allowing anti-vaxers to rant and rage, well they really can't refute anything, so that's not a worry.
"The only journey is the one within."
#32
@AnAlternateOpinion

If you don't mind my opinionated observation here, your theoretical concerns will probably be brushed off by some who find it "paranoid" or unacceptably stated... 

But some level of this idea seems perennially present at some stage, as we learn more about the nature of society's apparatus to glue us together.

Your thoughts, as far as I am concerned, are only yours, and you have a right to formulate your own view on the world you live in... as we all do...

People, generally, do judge, and want to place themselves in the position of "arbiter of value" about others who aren't them. I don't think this is abnormal, or even bad necessarily, lest we become cattle.

But when I think of something you (or anyone else) pronounces as a state of affairs, an idea, based on your words, and I see that another interpretation, or a specific choice of perspective, provides a different resolution or conjecture... it is not an attack... (especially at DI, presuming all things are T&C.)

I know that among most of the fears scoffed at by those biased against Conspiracy theorists as a "problem," there are a few in which they had best be praying  the CT'er are wrong... because they have been correct too many times for complacent comfort to risk...

To the point.  All people's are guilty of "tracking" people they like to hate.
This is no different.

There is a positive element of this... they are demonstrably and verifiably inefficient, and often bordering on just plain stupid.

To your list:

Anti-Americanism

The idea is a political trope.  It isn't real unless America is one thing... it is not.  This is not simply  "one country," it can't be that... much to the ideological zealot's frustration.  We are never going to be "one" the way the precept of whatever "Americanism" might be is used here.  It's an elemental aspect of primary bias.... " 'Merica F yeah!"

Anti-Capitalizm
"Captialism" is like the ritual prayer of Columbia worship....

Despite it not being true that it was a "design," it was a "business" idea, offered up to embrace all things "get out of our way... we're making money."  Anything that threatens the flow of revenue will be confronted and quashed.

So all our "Wouldn't it be better for us if..." that ends up with their revenue streams shrinking become magnified in dissent as "impossible."  (They actually employ literal squads of talking heads to 'serve' the proper message... they will always begin with their illustrious 'credentials' and then deliver the assigned message.... case closed.)

All our "Why is it OK for you to make us pay this much for this thing or service?" questions are reduced to examples of naive nonsense in the establishments reverberating message.  Commerce must prevail.... (they forget to mention it's their pals' and donators' commerce) and it's all for you.)

Thus: "So if leaned toward something like democratic socialism or say for mostly free health care that most other civilized countries have would that count?

YES.  You are suggesting that their revenue stream must change, and their answer is not just "no," but "Hell no."

So somewhere, across several servers,l you (and us all probably) are being metered.... AI scrubbers are "learning" us... and how to algorithmically slot our "E-identities" into nice little boxes with 'special' labels....  

"How about if I advocated for breaking up monopolies or speak badly about any of the recent gifts and free passes given to corporations that suck the appropriate teat or capitulate to fearless leader. How about disliking billionaires?"

Now you're just poking them in the eye.... Good on you!  
Although I might humbly add that "disliking" is a narrative word.  It can be twisted in inference.
Specify your dislike into a statement that at least recognizes that everyone of us is a different person, and their is no rule about all people who are rich are X." 

Stay in your voice.

I pray that far-future history will note that Capitalism in the American economy was broken... but the mentally-ill banking cloister/pseudo-royalty finally destroyed themselves and we were freed. Too bad the media machine is their bitch.

Anti-Christianity
Umm, what about the 1st Amendment? What about other religions, is it okay to be anti them? You can put me on the list now because fvck this perverted form of Christianity so prevalent with the fundamentalists and nationalists. In fact as an anti-theist that promotes separation of church and state, fvck everyone’s religion

I hear you, and thought similarly for a long time - discounting the "to each his own" kind of thing... so, not exactly "fuck everyone's" religion...

but the idea that if your denomination's religious practice is so precious you don't need to mandate respect. 

You and every one else might feel the same about xyz religion... but that has zero to do with me respecting you for that fact.  How would it work if dissenter's could simply demand respect for their choices... can't have "respect for choices" in your religion?  (Apparently only God could pull that off.)

You cannot mandate respect. 
Only behaviors can be proscribed, assuming everyone is in synch...

Have you ever heard a very old mercenary's refrain... "Wounds may heal, but the damage remains."

The society we live in is a hybrid... some demand what the original invaders were seeking...

No.  Not the pious and virtuous white-wash message... not "Religious Freedom."   That is a narrative...  They wanted to live in peace and not have their faith be a magnet for bias powered abuse often sponsored by their "government" and maliciously exploited by any who could.

(Sadly, here we are generations later... and still... the nature of people to want to connect is being exploited like it was mid 20th century.)

We (presuming a connection with the original arrivals of western cultures) were a traumatized, for the most part 'fleeing' community of disconnected citizenship  - in practice.  We carry some of those wounds still... unhealed... and there many who seem keen to keep wounds open.

And there was a smaller, more prominent set, who wished for the same thing that every single religious institution of the west seems to seek without fail... Religious primacy....  (it's sad, but it is always there.)   These are the folks who are "all-in" with "registering of faith" records... (and they are just like their banking kin... cloistered.)

Mega institutions like government and transnational 'entities" all fail at a certain scale... I suspect there is a fixed ratio of brain-power to social-control.... "Angels and minister of Grace defend us!"  Saint2


American founders openly projected this reality in the "experimental government" ... but modern ideologues never seem to learn that fact... it's puzzling.  Most still seem to think it is possible to make "forever solutions."


Support for the overthrow of the United States Government
Oh hell no but I would fully support the replacement of the current administration through all legal means available.

The whole concept is an activist trope.
Never works... EVER in history.

It works in the heart, as a ideal remedy, because of a whole 'nuther impulse...
... You know... the unwritten human commandment... the one we never ever openly pursue, because of it's implications to us....

"Ready for it?"

Though shall not "get away with it."

Everyone, even malefactors, love to nourish revenge.  Cohesive societies and cultures virtually secrete it within their narratives... akin to an anti-virus which the body doesn't need... (or does it not?)

We call it justice.... we want it to be justly applied.
.... I don't know if that's enough to excuse the tragic mistakes ... and the fact that nothing has changed... we keep subjecting innocent people to "prison."  Never acknowledging what exactly that is... a "potential" death sentence.

Extremism on migration

Extremism on race

Extremism on gender

Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality


OK, apologies in advance....  perhaps we see things differently.

All "perception-based" judgement is equally flawed...
We are driven to express our judgments by natural inclinations,
Yet all of our own action require a presence of mind
which we shed jumping into the ideal bait concept... community.

Sadly the actions and reactions you describe are perennially entertaining to some...
some earnestly, some hatefully, some ambivalent.

Media Activism constructs a competition through it social exploitation...

Whether a cause to support is a genuine allegiance, is personal I suspect rightfully private.
Activism denies that.  In fact... does anyone remember the pro COVID vax activism that literally exploded, as if they had been coordinated.  The Social stigmas reinforced in 'social' media... (51% bots the way.)

So I would opine, careful getting inflamed by the behaviors of people whose approval is not required... yup... that goes for them too.


Who decides what “traditional American” is and what counts as hostility? Is being okay with families that have two gay parents gonna get me in trouble. These days, the traditional American family is divorced.

This is such a slippery slope that should concern everyone. I'm having a hard time even recognizing this country anymore and I'll continue to feel that way safe in the knowledge that when I'm rounded up for one of the camps, my friends promise they will write.  


The manifestation of the irritation makes me want to infer something which may not be true...

So the idea of tradition is skewed with an activist purpose.  In either direction... which speaks to my respect for traditions, or at least my take on them.  Conformity never is the cause of my irritation with traditional things I disagree with... that I might be over or under reacting doesn't haunt me...

I am not on that part of the wave... I can't compare experiences... but it seems to me... people either overcome that which haunts them, or they live in that spot until they defeat it.  It really applies to anything, for anyone... or maybe I'm being obtuse.
#33
So one extreme side believes extra vehemently in the spaghetti monster in the sky

while the other extreme supports cutting off your peni and or scooping out your vaginas when you don't fit in as a teenager 

Is that the approximate extremist parameters... if so...

One is likely to be much more popular for the foreseeable future.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
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#34
(09-29-2025, 09:29 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Here's a scenario for you.....it’s the 4th of July and you and your kids are shooting off fireworks and are displaying the American flag and your neighbor is anti-American and he comes out and threatens you.

How are you going to handle that?

Ever asked him why he’s anti-American — since he actually lives here?

Threat?  Perceived threat?  Threat of bodily harm?

Has he ever done anything on a non-holiday?

What exactly was his complaint?  Is he old and upset by the noise?  Or did he specifically attack because of a patriotic celebration?

Did you handle it calmly or are you a reactionary?

Me? — repeat harassment and trespassing — I’d report it.
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(09-30-2025, 12:56 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Ever asked him why he’s anti-American — since he actually lives here?

Threat?  Perceived threat?  Threat of bodily harm?

Has he ever done anything on a non-holiday?

What exactly was his complaint?  Is he old and upset by the noise?  Or did he specifically attack because of a patriotic celebration?

Did you handle it calmly or are you a reactionary?

Me? — repeat harassment and trespassing — I’d report it.


Depends what is meant by "threaten" I suppose.

Over here, if a neighbour is going to have fireworks it is considered good manners to let neighbours with pets know in advance.

For example.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#36
(09-30-2025, 01:02 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Depends what is meant by "threaten" I suppose.

Over here, if a neighbour is going to have fireworks it is considered good manners to let neighbours with pets know in advance.

For example.

Oh definitely — perceived threat. 

First you perceive he is anti-American because he’s not the flag waving "patriot" you are. 

I'm anti this current regime.  Personally -- I think that makes me pro-American.

Here everyone just automatically locks up their pets. 

But — there’s always someone who has to set off rockets the week before and the following week.
#37
(09-30-2025, 01:24 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Oh definitely — perceived threat. 

First you perceive he is anti-American because he’s not the flag waving "patriot" you are. 

I'm anti this current regime.  Personally -- I think that makes me pro-American.

Here everyone just automatically locks up their pets. 

But — there’s always someone who has to set off rockets the week before and the following week.

Your un American attitude, has been noted, citizen.

You will be sent to an attitude adjustment Gulag...I mean, education facility.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Resistance is futile.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#38
(09-30-2025, 03:12 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Your un American attitude, has been noted, citizen.

You will be sent to an attitude adjustment Gulag...I mean, education facility.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Resistance is futile.

Lol

I think I'll have lots of company.

Trump's rating today is 53.2% disapproval.
#39
(09-30-2025, 03:17 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Lol

I think I'll have lots of company.

Trump's rating today is 53.2% disapproval.

Yep.  They will all be rounded up and arrested for their "hostility" to Trump.


How dare they?

Resist, resist.

Oh.  Bum.  That's me gone....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#40
for perspective...


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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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