Common Beliefs Are Now Indicators of Terrorism

[RazorV66]

Why don't you just call the police to handle it?

I know how I would handle it.

But someone from the "I hate the police" crowd is going to call the police?

[quintessentone]

I know how I would handle it.

But someone from the "I hate the police" crowd is going to call the police?

Some would describe you handling it yourself as being extreme and violent.

[RazorV66]

Don’t call the thought police on me but I have been thinking more about this list of things possibly indicating violence pre-crime and have many questions and concerns and I think everyone should be at least a little bit alarmed. I also think that if some people weren’t “radicalized” before, they might be now after this and all the other hateful rhetoric coming from the right? Let’s examine the list more closely.

Anti-Americanism
WTF eve is this and who decides? Would it be teaching about slavery, Jim Crow or the genocide of indigenous populations? Our military failures in other countries? Speaking out about war or corrupt politicians? Making a protest sign? Attending a peaceful protest?

Anti-Capitalizm
So if leaned toward something like democratic socialism or say for mostly free health care that most other civilized countries have would that count? How about if I advocated for breaking up monopolies or speak badly about any of the recent gifts and free passes given to corporations that suck the appropriate teat or capitulate to fearless leader. How about disliking billionaires?

Anti-Christianity
Umm, what about the 1st Amendment? What about other religions, is it okay to be anti them? You can put me on the list now because fvck this perverted form of Christianity so prevalent with the fundamentalists and nationalists. In fact as an anti-theist that promotes separation of church and state, fvck everyone’s religion

Support for the overthrow of the United States Government
Oh hell no but I would fully support the replacement of the current administration through all legal means available.

Extremism on migration
Again by who’s definition of what is “extreme”. Is saying that all migrants aren’t murderers, rapists and gangbangers too extreme? Is thinking the government should do more to facilitate legal immigration or do we just not want any brown people period? Is suggesting ICE could be a little less heavy handed get me a trip to the gulag?

Extremism on race
Is thinking that some systemic racism might be a thing extreme? Is failing to have sympathy for the poor white folks who don’t like dealing with the blacks and browns extreme? I don’t like NASCAR. That’s pretty extreme on race. Are they going to go after white power Aryan types too?

Extremism on gender
Is my widely known advocacy for trans youth and legitimate evidence based science extreme? Is noting that trans rights have been removed and continue to be crushed extreme? Is saying men are stupid jerks too much? You know he’s not talking about feminism and women’s rights here – it’s all about obsession with the trans.

Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality

Who decides what “traditional American” is and what counts as hostility? Is being okay with families that have two gay parents gonna get me in trouble. These days, the traditional American family is divorced.

This is such a slippery slope that should concern everyone. I'm having a hard time even recognizing this country anymore and I'll continue to feel that way safe in the knowledge that when I'm rounded up for one of the camps, my friends promise they will write.

Like I said, I shouldn't have even responded to this drivel.

Dummy me to think real conversations might be had and different viewpoints discussed for a change.

Now i know why you would make a thread like this......it's because you do check all the boxes of that list.

[UltraBudgie]

Here's a scenario for you.....its the 4th of July and you and your kids are shooting off fireworks and are displaying the American flag and your neighbor is anti-American and he comes out and threatens you.

How are you going to handle that?

Simple. Explain to him how both patriotism and anti-patriotism are a cynical ploy implemented by bourgeois commericalism, backed by transnational capitalist cartels with no loyalties other than themselves, the goal being to exploit and divide the proletariat via ideological entrapment. Then give him some fireworks and a beer. That ought to either placate or confuse him into shutting up and mellowing out.

[RazorV66]

Some would describe you handling it yourself as being extreme and violent.

There you go jumping to conclusions. 

I didn't say how i would handle it, I just said "I know how i would handle it"

[quintessentone]

Like I said, I shouldn't have even responded to this drivel.

Dummy me to think real conversations might be had and different viewpoints discussed for a change.

Now i know why you would make a thread like this......it's because you do check all the boxes of that list.

AAO didn't even respond to you throughout this thread at all, yet you call it drivel without even opening up dialogue with her.

It's an easy out for you now because you can bail without AAO responding to your attacks.

[quintessentone]

There you go jumping to conclusions. 

I didn't say how i would handle it, I just said "I know how i would handle it"

So then you would call the police?

[RazorV66]

AAO didn't even respond to you throughout this thread at all, yet you call it drivel without even opening up dialogue with her.

It's an easy out for you now because you can bail without AAO responding to your attacks.

All I had to do was read her response to her own OP.

For instance....."fvck everyone’s religion"? Because its all about the "fundamentalists and nationalists"

Or how about "Is thinking the government should do more to facilitate legal immigration"?

What more can they do? Its been the same for half a century or more...apply for citizenship legally or don't come.

It's just more of the same hating on people that might be religious that seems to pervade through the Leftists.

WTF happened to the supposed party of tolerance?

[RichardHurt]

Dude don't even try that shit.

I should have known not to respond in this thread because the Leftists don't want to have the tough conversations if it might go against them.

Every question I asked was a legitimate attempt to get an answer on why we should look the other way on extremism. 

Here's a scenario for you.....its the 4th of July and you and your kids are shooting off fireworks and are displaying the American flag and your neighbor is anti-American and he comes out and threatens you.

How are you going to handle that?

I would like to think I can spot someone not of sound mind pretty far away. Your question of what would I do most likly be far different that yours.
I don't always succeed, but when I do...I always have a banana mango Suger free juice!

[quintessentone]

All I had to do was read her response to her own OP.

For instance....."fvck everyone’s religion"? Because its all about the "fundamentalists and nationalists"

Or how about "Is thinking the government should do more to facilitate legal immigration"?

What more can they do? Its been the same for half a century or more...apply for citizenship legally or don't come.

I'll let AAO handle the response to your points because she may have a better understanding and explanation, being American and all.