Common Beliefs Are Now Indicators of Terrorism

[RazorV66]

for perspective...


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[quintessentone]

for perspective...


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Is that out of the 50% (out of 100%) of Republicans that still identify as MAGA?

Yes, perspective...

[putnam6]

Is that out of the 50% (out of 100%) of Republicans that still identify as MAGA?

For even better perspective...

Marist University in Duchess County, Poughkeepsie, New York, that bastion for conservative American Politics?

Dutchess County was carried by Kamala Harris/Tim Walz in 2024, one of the 6 southeastern New York counties carried by Harris 

FFS



https://maristpoll.marist.edu/methods/


 

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[quintessentone]

For even better perspective...

Marist University in Duchess County, Poughkeepsie, New York, that bastion for conservative American Politics?

Dutchess County was carried by Kamala Harris/Tim Walz in 2024, one of the 6 southeastern New York counties carried by Harris 

FFS

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/methods/


 

Does it really matter if Dems are down at this point in time? What matters is that 53 something percent of all people do not approve of the job Trump is doing.

[putnam6]

Does it really matter if Dems are down at this point in time? What matters is that 53 something percent of all people do not approve of the job Trump is doing.

Trump's not up for reelection, my little pessimistic padawan, and a million things can happen between now and 2028, after all,

His approval ratings hover between 47-53% mostly based on what bullshit he says that month, no more, no less. They spiked in April with the tariffs and went back down 

Im thinking 2026 mid terms... thats the first bellwether if Trump keeps the majority in the House and Senate, his "approval ratings" will mean bupkis anyway, the man only looks at the polls when he is leading

Trump is doing exactly as he pleases, and Im shocked at the surety he has in the decisions he is making. 

Seriously, does Trump look, talk, or act like he cares about his disapproval rating?

[DBCowboy]

I read the post about creating threads so here goes even though it's really not my thing.

This probably won’t hit the MSM until tonight or tomorrow but it looks like we’re one step closer to that which shall not be named?

This should scare the crap out of everybody as these new directives are ill-defined and open to such broad interpretation they can more or less make it up as they go. Watch what you say because expressing a non-compliant opinion on any of the below topics could be considered an indicator of violence or the potential thereof even if you don’t mention violence explicitly. So much for free speech, eh?

I donate to organizations like the ACLU, HRC, Indivisible through Act Blue, Civic Engagement Beyond Voting and several others that are sure to be targeted under these sweeping new directives. Donors will probably become suspects. Attend a No Kings rally? Good luck.


Read more on Substack (it’s free, just say no thanks to the subscription prompt)

'Trump’s NSPM-7 Labels Common Beliefs As Terrorism “Indicators”

Trump’s NSPM-7 Alarms Law Firms While Congress Is Silent

I urge you to watch at least the first 4 minutes of this. It breaks down the above for those that don’t want to read"
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJp2iPBiNzk]

And another:
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What I am wondering after going through all of this is that is specifically directed toward left wing "radicals". Does that mean right wing radicals get a free pass?

I honestly don't care what you think, who you sleep with, or how you identify as.

AS LONG AS it doesn't infringe on my Constitutional rights.

Fair enough?

[CriticalStinker]

Good thread.

I really don't want to say you are overreacting but its possible you are.

I mean just going off those bullet points, if a person in this country is all of those things, they ARE an extreme radical.

By all accounts, the church shooter here in Michigan yesterday was a Trump supporter that had some grudge against Mormons.

There are extreme radicals on both sides and both sides need to do better to stop that before there's no turning back.

Kudos for the measured post brother. 

That is all.

[AnAlternateOpinion]

I honestly don't care what you think, who you sleep with, or how you identify as.
AS LONG AS it doesn't infringe on my Constitutional rights.

Really on topic but I'm glad you got that off your chest. Feel better?

Why would I do that anyway? I'm kind of a do unto others type and I'd expect you to honor my rights as much as you expect me to honor yours. However, if for some reason you think your rights have some sort of superiority or take precedent over mine, don't expect me to just roll over and play dead to make you happy.

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Has it occurred to anyone that a good portion of the dissatisfaction with Democrats stems from their ineffectiveness and lack of backbone at standing up to Republican overreach and or their fear of angering Daddy?
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Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this discussion.

[putnam6]

Really on topic but I'm glad you got that off your chest. Feel better?

Why would I do that anyway? I'm kind of a do unto others type and I'd expect you to honor my rights as much as you expect me to honor yours. However, if for some reason you think your rights have some sort of superiority or take precedent over mine, don't expect me to just roll over and play dead to make you happy.

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Has it occurred to anyone that a good portion of the dissatisfaction with Democrats stems from their ineffectiveness and lack of backbone at standing up to Republican overreach and or their fear of angering Daddy?
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Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this discussion.

There are so many independents in America because the GP is always tittering with disdain of thier government and/or thier party or both. 

As for the activist element...

The names change, but the angst, anxiety, and urgency seem the same; but the numbers and emotions arent there organically, saw videos of protesters being bussed in, which isn't organic, authentic, and energetic enough to make a difference. 

It's protest fatigue, among a variety of other reasons... there's no momentum, less financing... seems like it's spinning 
its wheels

At some point, it feels as if America was geniunely there, the cause wouldn't have to be packaged, promoted, pushed, and sold so hard....

as we have tried to do with green energy and a number of the DNC's pet projects

[SomeStupidName]

Don’t call the thought police on me but I have been thinking more about this list of things possibly indicating violence pre-crime and have many questions and concerns and I think everyone should be at least a little bit alarmed. I also think that if some people weren’t “radicalized” before, they might be now after this and all the other hateful rhetoric coming from the right? Let’s examine the list more closely.

Anti-Americanism
WTF eve is this and who decides? Would it be teaching about slavery, Jim Crow or the genocide of indigenous populations? Our military failures in other countries? Speaking out about war or corrupt politicians? Making a protest sign? Attending a peaceful protest?

Anti-Capitalizm
So if leaned toward something like democratic socialism or say for mostly free health care that most other civilized countries have would that count? How about if I advocated for breaking up monopolies or speak badly about any of the recent gifts and free passes given to corporations that suck the appropriate teat or capitulate to fearless leader. How about disliking billionaires?

Anti-Christianity
Umm, what about the 1st Amendment? What about other religions, is it okay to be anti them? You can put me on the list now because fvck this perverted form of Christianity so prevalent with the fundamentalists and nationalists. In fact as an anti-theist that promotes separation of church and state, fvck everyone’s religion

Support for the overthrow of the United States Government
Oh hell no but I would fully support the replacement of the current administration through all legal means available.

Extremism on migration
Again by who’s definition of what is “extreme”. Is saying that all migrants aren’t murderers, rapists and gangbangers too extreme? Is thinking the government should do more to facilitate legal immigration or do we just not want any brown people period? Is suggesting ICE could be a little less heavy handed get me a trip to the gulag?

Extremism on race
Is thinking that some systemic racism might be a thing extreme? Is failing to have sympathy for the poor white folks who don’t like dealing with the blacks and browns extreme? I don’t like NASCAR. That’s pretty extreme on race. Are they going to go after white power Aryan types too?

Extremism on gender
Is my widely known advocacy for trans youth and legitimate evidence based science extreme? Is noting that trans rights have been removed and continue to be crushed extreme? Is saying men are stupid jerks too much? You know he’s not talking about feminism and women’s rights here – it’s all about obsession with the trans.

Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality

Who decides what “traditional American” is and what counts as hostility? Is being okay with families that have two gay parents gonna get me in trouble. These days, the traditional American family is divorced.

This is such a slippery slope that should concern everyone. I'm having a hard time even recognizing this country anymore and I'll continue to feel that way safe in the knowledge that when I'm rounded up for one of the camps, my friends promise they will write.

I think that if this list worries anybody they may want to rethink where on Earth they would be happy to live. Anyone who is happy to be an American understands we need hold on to and hold up our standards and if you don't like it the door is open.