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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-20-2025, 05:28 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: If you're going to count anarchists as far left, then add anti-government attacks by people on right.

The point is there's nuance:


And racist attacks generally have much more far-right overlap. Unless you're considering any anarchist attack on establishment power-structures as being "anti-white"?


Really?

Are synagogue attacked blamed on the right as well?
(09-20-2025, 05:37 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Are synagogue attacked blamed on the right as well?

Why, I imagine that's based on the intersection ideological categorization of the individual instance, of course! Here's the PIRUS data, you can wade through it for more information if you want:
https://www.start.umd.edu/pirus-reports

One would think (and I haven't compiled statistical frequency of occurrence for this) that the answer might be "both left and right". For example, the ideological origin of a synagogue attack based on a anti-Zionist pro-Palestine position may be characterized as "far-left", depending on the attacker's other political beliefs, or as "far-right", were the attacker for example a Christian nationalist or if they held authoritarian Nazi beliefs.

That is a good example of "horseshoe theory"!
(09-20-2025, 05:50 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Why, I imagine that's based on the intersection ideological categorization of the individual instance, of course! Here's the PIRUS data, you can wade through it for more information if you want:
https://www.start.umd.edu/pirus-reports

One would think (and I haven't compiled statistical frequency of occurrence for this) that the answer might be "both left and right". For example, the ideological origin of a synagogue attack based on a anti-Zionist pro-Palestine position may be characterized as "far-left", depending on the attacker's other political beliefs, or as "far-right", were the attacker for example a Christian nationalist or if they held authoritarian Nazi beliefs.

That is a good example of "horseshoe theory"!

So basically, any murder that can't be directly attributed to a leftist is considered a right-wing issue.

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(09-20-2025, 05:37 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Really?

Are synagogue attacked blamed on the right as well?

Select a specific -- ignore everything else.
(09-20-2025, 05:53 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: So basically, any murder that can't be directly attributed to a leftist is considered a right-wing issue.

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Sure, you go with that. Or the converse. Oh wait, you already are. Smile

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(09-20-2025, 05:56 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Select a specific -- ignore everything else.



Hey, I'm a Zionist, I'm not the one listing or categorizing Jew hatred.
(09-20-2025, 06:00 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Sure, you go with that. Or the converse. Oh wait, you already are. Smile

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The left did work hard at trying to blame Kirks death on the right.
(09-20-2025, 06:02 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: The left did work hard at trying to blame Kirks death on the right.

No they didn't.

That's you projecting your own thoughts -- again -- on to the Left.
(09-20-2025, 06:06 PM)ANNEE Wrote: No they didn't.

That's you projecting your own thoughts -- again -- on to the Left.

Now Annee, it's all about projection, when you're giving opinion without being willing to point to empirical data to back it up. The "right", very obviously, is simply those who are right. The "far-right" is also those who are right, but maybe go a bit too far. It's perfectly simple. If you're insecure, you can scramble after some sense of correctness by continually piling hate upon the "left", who are of course those who are not right—anyone you disagree with.

Why do you have to fight against yourself this way?
(09-20-2025, 06:06 PM)ANNEE Wrote: No they didn't.

That's you projecting your own thoughts -- again -- on to the Left.


Maybe you haven't heard about Jimmy Kimmel.

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