Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[Moon68]

Extremist/Radicals -- are -- Extremist/Radicals.

They'll use whatever -- to appease their extremist concepts -- including political opportunities.  


Then there's legitimate politics -- having a platform -- going through proper channels to affect change.

Totally different IMO

But, when half or over have of that ideology are, not only okay with but promote political violence, are they really radicals or has violence become an integral part of their platform?

[putnam6]

• The post highlights Turning Point USA's explosive growth to over 54,000 chapter requests in six days following Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, where 22-year-old Tyler Robinson allegedly acted due to ideological opposition, suggesting a radicalization effect that aligns with studies like the 2019 Journal of Peace Research finding political violence can boost group recruitment by 30-50% in polarized climates.
  
• Charlie Kirk’s original goal of 20,000 chapters, more than doubled post-mortem, reflects a martyrdom effect, supported by psychological research from the American Psychological Association (2021) showing deceased leaders can inspire 2-3 times more engagement when perceived as unfairly silenced, amplifying TPUSA’s influence despite past criticisms of spreading misinformation, as noted in The Guardian (2021).
  
• The movement’s rapid expansion, including plans for a September 21 memorial at State Farm Stadium and increased AmericaFest attendance, occurs amid global tributes and leadership transition debates, challenging the narrative of a declining conservative youth movement by leveraging Kirk’s death into a global organizing surge, as evidenced by vigils reported by Reuters across 35 locations worldwide.
  

[RazorV66]

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The Leftists have no idea what they opened up by killing Kirk and celebrating his murder.

[PorkChop96]

The Leftists have no idea what they opened up by killing Kirk and celebrating his murder.

Here is a hint for them....

[Oldcarpy2]

The Leftists have no idea what they opened up by killing Kirk and celebrating his murder.

So is everyone on the left responsible?  Are you threatening retribution on millions?

Calm down, dear, and put some cream on your hurt butt....

[Moon68]

So is everyone on the left responsible?  Are you threatening retribution on millions?

Calm down, dear, and put some cream on your hurt butt....

Then allow me to pose the same question to you as I did ANNEE. When half or over have of that ideology are, not only okay with but promote political violence, are they really radicals or has violence become an integral part of their platform?

[RazorV66]

So is everyone on the left responsible?  Are you threatening retribution on millions?

Calm down, dear, and put some cream on your hurt butt....

Don't you have a Trump protest to go to over there while he is visiting your King?

[CriticalStinker]

The Leftists have no idea what they opened up by killing Kirk and celebrating his murder.

I don’t think it’s ever smart to blame a broad group of people for the actions of one psychopath.

There are going to be people who lean a certain way while not still fitting into a group. I think that’s important to remember. Just like the right can have nationalists, but don’t have to own white nationalists or outright Nazis. Some of them commit acts of violence, but I don’t think we should say “this was the republicans”.

Ive seen some people celebrating and posting distasteful memes on X, and that’s disgusting. But I don’t think all the claims of celebration are that. I think some people have opinions about Kirk, and just because he’s gone, and died to horrific violence doesn’t mean they can’t have opinions. Is it distasteful to be so vocal about it now? Probably. Is that new? Nope. I remember the threads on ATS when prominent public figures died.

I agree with you this is a big moment for the right to consolidate support and unify their party. But their reactions are going to have a big part in that. If the right overreacts, it could push people away too.

People tend to forget elections are usually won by capturing third party and independent/swing votes… Rallying your base is certainly important to make sure they don’t stay home, but capturing those outside your party is more important IMO.

[Oldcarpy2]

Don't you have a Trump protest to go to over there while he is visiting your King?

No.  He ain't worth it.

[CriticalStinker]

Here is a hint for them....

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I think he sees this as an opportunity to get back in good graces and regain relevance. Don’t forget why he “retired”.

I’d keep him at a distance. Should go without saying when Fuentes is more palatable.