Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[Vermilion]

I almost wish the kind of attacks we’ve seen in recent history were organized groups. It would be easier to detect and prevent.

Unfortunately, recent history has shown the rise of lone wolfs. Obviously, they may be radicalized by certain things that groups will say online, but it’s going to be hard to show that certain groups have the intent to radicalize people unless there is evidence of it.

Just going after groups with extreme ideas is only going to make the problem worse by (in their mind) vindicating the government trying to silence them.

Thats what makes the free speech debate tricky. There is speech that is illegal, like directly inciting violence. But that has to be pretty cut and dry. If it’s just ideas we find repugnant, it’s not quite the same thing.

The reason free speech is constitutionally protected isn’t to protect speech we like. It’s to protect offensive and uncomfortable speech so long as it’s not directly threatening violence or other crimes.

Personally, I don’t consume speech by extremist groups. I wouldn’t be upset if they somehow disappeared. But when the government starts picking and choosing them based on politics, it’s only a matter of time before a different administration does the same things for other groups, and the lines start to blur on what is extremist in the first place.

And this has already been done by some admins to some extent. I’d even argue the response to Waco helped lead to Oklohoma City. Silencing certain groups doesn’t always avoid violence, it can create it. To me, fighting bad ideas with good ideas is more effective than anything the government can do (unless they have actionable intel on imminent threats, sadly it’s hard to trust them after the last few decades).

What you may be missing, or not, is the fact that those groups have been tied to previous terror attacks.
The most recent was the Dallas ICE attack by a group of trans antifa terrorists.
They have direct ties to Armed Queers SLC which is in St George Utah, Tyler Robinson’s home city.
The FBI investigation of them has nothing to do with politics, it is an intelligent rational law enforcement investigation.
Do you honestly think the FBI is investigating Armed Queers SLC because of politics, or are you just inferring it.

[Vermilion]

May I respectfully interject to point out that all these shooters seem to have one thing in common?

They are Americans.

I'll get my coat....

Ermiya Fanaeian, the leader of Armed Queers SLC, is an Iranian in the US here on a visa.

Imagine how Iran, or palestine, would treat a man who thinks and acts like he’s a woman.

[UltraBudgie]

Because God forbid that Conservatives cause bad butt hurt to foreigners. 

If you're referring to Exodus 22:21:

You must not mistreat or oppress foreigners in any way. Remember, you yourselves were once foreigners in the land of Egypt.

...it's generally accepted that refers only to foreigners living among one, in the same land. Brits are fair game?

[Oldcarpy2]

UltraBudgie wrote:

"Brits are fair game".

Apparently, we are?

[cherokeetroy]

They have the father ID’ing the weapon, the father all but getting a confession from his own son, we have the chain of custody of the ownership of the weapon, we have the shooter’s DNA on the weapon and the cartridges (and cartridges at the house).
Eventually ballistics will determine the bullet recovered matches the unspent ammo recovered.
The evidence is voluminous.

Most Digital Natives don't adopt the old (outdated) left vs right political construct 

[Oldcarpy2]

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You're welcome, Porky.....

[Oldcarpy2]

Because God forbid that Conservatives cause bad butt hurt to foreigners. 

We never see that.

Bit worried about your obsession with "butt hurt"?

[Vermilion]

Most Digital Natives don't adopt the old (outdated) left vs right political construct 

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The new age pro-trans pro-antifa non-binary political construct rears its ugly head again.

[cherokeetroy]

The new age pro-trans pro-antifa non-binary political construct rears its ugly head again.

No one's buying the ON

Except you

[Vermilion]

No one's buying the ON

Except you

What exactly is the official narrative?