Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[putnam6]

I believe it was an emotional response for sure.
Harmeet Dhillon immediately jumped in to clarify as soon as she said it too.

“We are not prosecuting people for nasty speech alone — but true incitement to violence, or hate-motivated attacks, are illegal and will be treated as such by this DOJ!”
https://x.com/AAGDhillon/status/1968006372928225783

Harmeet is an especially fine lawyer with a rock solid moral compass.

I don't follow a lot of Trump's administration
Vance, Rubio, Miller and

Harmeet Dhillon

I caught a video of her speaking and immediately followed her.

[cherokeetroy]

Pretty common among 'down home' people. Remember that zoomer was raised in a traditional conservative family. Beleive it or not, kids in the south still say yes maam, no sir, etc. The farther from the big city you get, the more common that stuff is. They even speak in full sentences.  

While this may seem like an odd exchange, it wasn't a back-and-forth over a few minutes, it was just transcribed as a lump. If someone was trying to make it seem off, they couldn't have done a better job which seems like it is more likely a kid who was well-read and educated )maybe even home schooled) rather than the worst attempt any fed could have made to try and impersonate a kid. 

If faked, it never would have made it past the first edit. The boyfriend, so long as they don't suicide, will have ample opportunities to interview and clear the air, so I wouldn't worry.

All across social media, I haven't seen one person -- left or right -- who believes that exchange is legit

This isn't like 9/11 when most people still trusted media & bought into the government lies

Not questioning the Official Narrative until years later

Trust in Officials has completely eroded 

They're losing control over the Hivemind

So whatever the Endgame is, they'll have to move fast

[Vermilion]

All across social media, I haven't seen one person -- left or right -- who believes that exchange is legit

This isn't like 9/11 when most people still trusted media & bought into the government lies

Not questioning the Official Narrative until years later

Trust in Officials has completely eroded 

They're losing control over the Hivemind

So whatever the Endgame is, they'll have to move fast

Well they’re busy scrubbing anything related to the Armed Queers SLC already.
The FBI is looking hard at them because they are a terrorist organization with ties to democrat organizations.
Ermiya Fanaeian, their dear leader, was on the Utah State Democratic Committee payroll.

Armed Queers SLC co-hosted educational workshops with Elm Fork branch of the John Brown Gun Club, the trans antifa perpetuators behind the July 4 Alvarado ICE facility shooting.
Ermiya Fanaeian appears to have promoted these on his private Instagram.
They’ve scrubbed their instagram after the shooting.

He was recognized by a State Dept–affiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals.
The entire Utah Global Diplomacy site is gone now.
https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1968061765604044932

[Kwaka]

With the video where the suspect jumps off the roof, it does look like he is carrying something. It is hard to see any barrel, maybe? With all the other evidence, one shot, one shooter, makes a good suspect to start.




Candace Owens is doing a strong job in keeping up with things. A couple of things:

George Zinn, the man arrested with his diversion of guilt has also found to have images of child abuse on his phone. Is being in a child abuse network a motivation that day?

With the other suspect now arrested, have been reports from neighbors that a lot of unusual cars where parked at his house in the week leading up to events. There was usually no visitors, did cause parking problems so more noticeable. Just what kind of new friends did he have?

[cherokeetroy]

[Vermilion]

[Image: https://i.imgur.com/OXAzxpr.jpeg]

They have the father ID’ing the weapon, the father all but getting a confession from his own son, we have the chain of custody of the ownership of the weapon, we have the shooter’s DNA on the weapon and the cartridges (and cartridges at the house).
Eventually ballistics will determine the bullet recovered matches the unspent ammo recovered.
The evidence is voluminous.

[CriticalStinker]

Well they’re busy scrubbing anything related to the Armed Queers SLC already.
The FBI is looking hard at them because they are a terrorist organization with ties to democrat organizations.
Ermiya Fanaeian, their dear leader, was on the Utah State Democratic Committee payroll.

Armed Queers SLC co-hosted educational workshops with Elm Fork branch of the John Brown Gun Club, the trans antifa perpetuators behind the July 4 Alvarado ICE facility shooting.
Ermiya Fanaeian appears to have promoted these on his private Instagram.
They’ve scrubbed their instagram after the shooting.

He was recognized by a State Dept–affiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals.
The entire Utah Global Diplomacy site is gone now.
https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1968061765604044932

I almost wish the kind of attacks we’ve seen in recent history were organized groups. It would be easier to detect and prevent.

Unfortunately, recent history has shown the rise of lone wolfs. Obviously, they may be radicalized by certain things that groups will say online, but it’s going to be hard to show that certain groups have the intent to radicalize people unless there is evidence of it.

Just going after groups with extreme ideas is only going to make the problem worse by (in their mind) vindicating the government trying to silence them.

Thats what makes the free speech debate tricky. There is speech that is illegal, like directly inciting violence. But that has to be pretty cut and dry. If it’s just ideas we find repugnant, it’s not quite the same thing.

The reason free speech is constitutionally protected isn’t to protect speech we like. It’s to protect offensive and uncomfortable speech so long as it’s not directly threatening violence or other crimes.

Personally, I don’t consume speech by extremist groups. I wouldn’t be upset if they somehow disappeared. But when the government starts picking and choosing them based on politics, it’s only a matter of time before a different administration does the same things for other groups, and the lines start to blur on what is extremist in the first place.

And this has already been done by some admins to some extent. I’d even argue the response to Waco helped lead to Oklohoma City. Silencing certain groups doesn’t always avoid violence, it can create it. To me, fighting bad ideas with good ideas is more effective than anything the government can do (unless they have actionable intel on imminent threats, sadly it’s hard to trust them after the last few decades).

[Oldcarpy2]

May I respectfully interject to point out that all these shooters seem to have one thing in common?

They are Americans.

I'll get my coat....

[PorkChop96]

May I respectfully interject to point out that all these shooters seem to have one thing in common?

They are Americans.

I'll get my coat....

[RazorV66]

May I respectfully interject to point out that all these shooters seem to have one thing in common?

They are Americans.

I'll get my coat....

Because God forbid that Conservatives cause bad butt hurt to foreigners. 

We never see that.