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(09-17-2025, 05:49 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Again, cheer-picking a year doesn't help your silly cause.

What do the majority of the rest of the years show?

And what does the FBI say? 

Next.  Saint2


I’m not cherry picking anything.

In 2017 there was a major attack on a congressional baseball game with the shooter seeking to shoot and kill republicans resulting in four people as shooting victims.  That was a major event of the year.  What other attacks justifies “right wing” attacks for that year?  Based on calling by who “right wing”?
(09-17-2025, 05:52 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: I’m not cherry picking anything.

In 2017 there was a major attack on a congressional baseball game with the shooter seeking to shoot and kill republicans resulting in four people as shooting victims.  That was a major event of the year.  What other attacks justifies “right wing” attacks for that year?  Based on calling by who “right wing”?

So what about the rest of the data and years going all the way back until the 1970s?

What about statements and statistics presented by your own FBI by ADL?

What does the graph suggest WallFlowerActive?

You're full of piss and wind.

Hitting out with one year because you think it supports your cause.

Shame the rest of them dont.

And your silly claims misrepresent the data.

Reports from the "FBI" "DHS" and "the Center for Strategic and International Studies" consistently find that far-right violence has been the predominant domestic terror threat in the U.S. since at least 2001.

So, while the baseball shooting was significant, it does not negate the overwhelming pattern of right-wing extremist attacks.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-17-2025, 05:49 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Right-wing extremists commit the majority of domestic terror attacks and politically motivated murders in the USA.


And what constitutes an act?  When people have been arrested for just praying outside abortion centers?
(09-17-2025, 05:56 AM)andy06shake Wrote: So what about the rest of the data and years going all the way back until the 1970s?


Why can’t you post about 2017?  Four people shot by a person targeting republicans.  That’s like 10 percent of the “violence” that year?  Where there like another 12 to 20 people shot or killed by “right wing” that year?  What was those cases, and the context?
(09-17-2025, 05:59 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: And what constitutes an act?  When people have been arrested for just praying outside abortion center?

You're not getting to move the goal posts.

Read the data and understand and accept what it shows.

Again, reports from your own  "FBI" "DHS" and "the Center for Strategic and International Studies" consistently find that far-right violence has been the predominant domestic terror threat in the U.S.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-17-2025, 06:02 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Why can’t you post about 2017?  Four people shot by a person targeting republicans.  That’s like 10 percent of the “violence” that year?  Where there like another 12 to 20 people shot or killed by “right wing” that year?  What was those cases, and the context?

I think you may wish to go check your math there buddy. 

Why can't you accept facts, or learn to read a simple graph, again, that's one year. 

And that's called cherry picking. LoL 

The 2017 congressional baseball attack alone does not alter the overall trend, and not even for that year, by the looks of it.

And you can't prove otherwise.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-17-2025, 01:45 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: "My old man"

Is a dead giveaway 

Who th wrote that, some Fed agent holdover from the 70s?

Pretty common among 'down home' people. Remember that zoomer was raised in a traditional conservative family. Beleive it or not, kids in the south still say yes maam, no sir, etc. The farther from the big city you get, the more common that stuff is. They even speak in full sentences.  

While this may seem like an odd exchange, it wasn't a back-and-forth over a few minutes, it was just transcribed as a lump. If someone was trying to make it seem off, they couldn't have done a better job which seems like it is more likely a kid who was well-read and educated )maybe even home schooled) rather than the worst attempt any fed could have made to try and impersonate a kid. 

If faked, it never would have made it past the first edit. The boyfriend, so long as they don't suicide, will have ample opportunities to interview and clear the air, so I wouldn't worry.
(09-17-2025, 06:24 AM)Halfswede Wrote: Pretty common among 'down home' people. Remember that zoomer was raised in a traditional conservative family. Beleive it or not, kids in the south still say yes maam, no sir, etc. The farther from the big city you get, the more common that stuff is. They even speak in full sentences.  

While this may seem like an odd exchange, it wasn't a back-and-forth over a few minutes, it was just transcribed as a lump. If someone was trying to make it seem off, they couldn't have done a better job which seems like it is more likely a kid who was well-read and educated )maybe even home schooled) rather than the worst attempt any fed could have made to try and impersonate a kid. 

If faked, it never would have made it past the first edit. The boyfriend, so long as they don't suicide, will have ample opportunities to interview and clear the air, so I wouldn't worry.

I thought the texts sounded rather strange.

But that's probably because im not from the area.

Like you suggest, if it were faked, the boyfriend could confirm such.

By the looks of it he was not home-schooled.

He seems to have attended public schools in the local district.

Specifically, "Pine View Middle School" and "Pine View High School."
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-17-2025, 06:05 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I think you may wish to go check your math there buddy. 


Then what where the “right wing” attacks and the actual charges?

it’s from 2019.  But this case is clear example.

Are the figures reported?  Or actual convictions?

Stuff like this happens?
Quote:Jussie Smollett: Timeline of a hoax, jail time and an overturned conviction
He was found guilty of five charges in December 2021 over his false reports of being attacked in Chicago in 2019.
 https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47317701.amp

Are the stats you used just off allegations?  Or actual proven cases by a court of law?  Are they ever adjusted when cases are found to be hoaxes?  Or they just a bunch of figures people can call in and pad by just making claims that never have to be proven in anyway?
(09-17-2025, 06:05 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I think you may wish to go check your math there buddy. 

Why can't you accept facts, or learn to read a simple graph, again, that's one year. 

And that's called cherry picking. LoL 

The 2017 congressional baseball attack alone does not alter the overall trend, and not even for that year, by the looks of it.

And you can't prove otherwise.

No, but it shows a massive hole in the data. Statistics are not facts (I'm a data scientist).  ADL is a far-left source, so that is understandable. The glaring part missing in this is everything after 2020.  The explosion of trans/lgbt violence obviously left out. 2016 is another glaring example. Pulse nightclub - radical gay shoots up 49 people.  The presentation of the data is grossly misleading at best.  This is an example of ADL cherry-picking what constitutes 'violent acts', and presenting it all in the most misleading way. 

Yes, historically right-wing extremists were lumped as the shooters, but going back as far as Columbine there has been a trend (gay antifa shooters) that implied 'automatic weapons == right wing".  The newer trend is disaffected lgbt.

You can argue all you want, but either half the US was psychic in predicting a leftist pro-trans linked agenda, or there's an acutal trend. Which is it? Psychic?



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