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(09-16-2025, 07:21 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Yes

and they can't Institute the new system until the old system is gone

But they realize they can't take the U.S. down by force

It has to self implode
It may seem like it, but it's not going to happen
On a related note, they are trying to implement CBDC in Europe now. A new report put out with Mastercard's help showed 'Most Europeans simply aren't interested. ' So they will have to 'increase messaging and push imaging and branding'
(09-16-2025, 03:26 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Vermilion wrote:

"I know you’re  an American so I’ll forgive you being mistaken about the political violence over there since you obviously have no idea."
Spin
There you go.  Fixed for you.

Political violence is a MUCH broader term than political murder.

Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“   Bertrand Russell
(09-16-2025, 04:28 PM)Bush Master Wrote: Patel should have taken pause to ask American gun dealers to be selective of who they sell to.

At least put the idea out there.

The final sale is entirely up to them.

I'm just sayin'
The grandfather didn't shoot anyone.
Besides, you can be sued for not baking a cake for someone, so you can be sued for not selling a gun to someone.


Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“   Bertrand Russell
(09-16-2025, 07:32 PM)sahgwa Wrote: It may seem like it, but it's not going to happen
On a related note, they are trying to implement CBDC in Europe now. A new report put out with Mastercard's help showed 'Most Europeans simply aren't interested. ' So they will have to 'increase messaging and push imaging and branding'

On the crypto stuff

I think once they've got most real world assets tokenized

The digital stuff will be way more accessible and user friendly to the "normies"

They're in the process of tokenizing Wall St stocks, bonds & treasuries & real estate now

It'll all be transitioned soon, I think
(09-16-2025, 04:32 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Bushmaster wrote:

"Risk factors leading to attention seeking behavior include loneliness, jealousy, low self-esteem, narcissism, rejection, and self-pity.[sup][7][/sup] A desire for validation is theorised as a motivation for attention seeking behavior."

Perfect description of...Trump?

Well, that's easy to say, partly because we ALL do it.

The difference is, some people do positive things for attention, like philanthropy. Others resort to dark desperate acts for attention. Its' pretty self-explanatory, if you look back historically...especially poignant with assassins.

Identifying Good and Evil is a basic exercize, so I'm sorry that happened to you.

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(09-16-2025, 01:43 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: [Image: https://i.imgur.com/ir3tESo.jpeg]


That's crazy, it was my first thought looking at him. He has that WALTZ vibe.

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Ain't it hilarious how some blokes believe Americans don't know anything about batshit bonkers Britain, while pontificating about all they know and see all in the United States...immediately as something happens in real time.

the hubris...
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(09-16-2025, 02:41 PM)andy06shake Wrote: The problem is that most politically-motivated shootings in your nation are committed by individuals aligned with right-wing extremist ideologies as opposed to the left.

Not that it's a competition.

I don't think crazy people care much about your 1st amendment.

Or the rest, unless it motivates and/or justifies the horrendous acts of depravity they choose to commit.

If the texts are to be believed, that person is clearly nuts, not very bright, and acted alone.

I think you mean 2nd Amendment.

It's ok to be wrong....about everything.


(09-16-2025, 07:59 PM)Harte Wrote: The grandfather didn't shoot anyone.
Besides, you can be sued for not baking a cake for someone, so you can be sued for not selling a gun to someone.


Harte


It comes down to the stated or inferred intent. A sexually charged "cake" (for no good reason) carries a certain message, that a gun just doesn't. So if the intent is to deprive someone of a service/good, just because you don't like the message on it, is more specific than just a gun.

I know I'm trying too hard to explain, but they're not the same and you cant' fairly use the cake precedent when/if you dont' believe it was just.

Trust me, a gun dealer can skip a sale for no stated reason. If a cake maker calls someone's pet cake project "faggy" or offensive, well.... different. Intent.
Let me begin first by thanking anyone that actually takes the time to read what I have to say in regards to what I am seeing because it concerns me greatly. Let me also make it very clear that I view myself as a proper libertarian; i.e, socially liberal, but fiscally and legislatively conservative. I do not care what anyone does in their private lives. It's not my place to judge. However, when our public and private lives become dictated for us? That's a problem for me.


One of the things that I used to enjoy, every time I crawled out from my hole and logged back into society, and social media, was seeing snippets of Charlie Kirk's debates being cut and edited to make a point either way. The reason I enjoyed it so much was because I always felt compelled to seek out what was cut away, and what the agenda and the reasoning behind the editing actually was.

I've seen Charlie Kirk fiercely debate "leftists" that acted like petulant children, and I've seen him put horrendously bigoted "alt-right" individuals in their place as well. This was a man that made his beliefs sacred, for better or worse, and thus.... He is worthy of respect, because he was a man of principle.

What concerns me most about the lost of this man, is how his death immediately became so twisted. Think about it. We watched him die, "Live on TV." And somehow also knew almost immediately where the shot came from but couldn't find the shooter? That's.... Off...

We also watched as the FBI announced multiple times, "We got the guy." and then let the POI go... We got caught up in the anger and vitriol of red vs blue, meanwhile no one really paid attention to an airfield that didn't get locked down, and a private jet that illegally disappeared from radar... That's... Off...

It has never been more clear to me that we are being led along...

So I would like to request that we all, very angrily but with steeled determination, sift through the lies... We focus on what exactly is true. What facts do we actually know? And how is what we know being used to twist the truth up into yet another lie? 

I posit this acknowledgement, but at this time can offer no proof of anything, so I fall back on the words attributed to a former director of Certain Instigative Actors, "We will know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

Again, let me ask you this while we all palm the blades at our sides.... What facts do we actually know?
 "In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces".
-Zapp Brannigan



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