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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-16-2025, 11:11 AM)Vermilion Wrote: His lover says there was a conversation on discord saying he needed him to retrieve a rifle from a drop point and giving details on where he dropped it.

That would be interesting to see.

No links to the post or a copy of the conversation?

Another question that would seem to arise is where he chose to reassemble the thing before dropping it?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-16-2025, 11:16 AM)andy06shake Wrote: That would be interesting to see.

No links to the post or a copy of the conversation?

Another question that would seem to arise is where he chose to reassemble the thing before dropping it?

Just a wild thought.

The video of him on the roof before he climbed down -- does not seem to show a rifle.  Unless it's in pieces in his backpack.

Could he have dropped it off the roof prior to his descent?
(09-16-2025, 11:27 AM)ANNEE Wrote: Just a wild thought.

The video of him on the roof before he climbed down -- does not seem to show a rifle.  Unless it's in pieces in his backpack.

Could he have dropped it off the roof prior to his descent?

I looked at that clip a few times and it's very hard to determine what may be happening because it's grainy. But for now in my view, it looks like he did drop the gun on the roof, then when he got a foothold on the top of the building, he may have thrown it to the ground. I don't remember what he did after landing on the ground, did he pick anything up?
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(09-16-2025, 11:16 AM)andy06shake Wrote: That would be interesting to see.

No links to the post or a copy of the conversation?

Another question that would seem to arise is where he chose to reassemble the thing before dropping it?



I don’t have photos of the casings he wrote pro-antifa and pro-trans propaganda on either but they exist.

There’s no evidence he took apart that rifle.
Yes, I understand a screwdriver was found.
There is evidence, photos and videos, that he stuffed it in his pant leg and also in some sort of bag or wrapping…

Here’s a photo of him after he jumped off the roof.
He appears to be holding something long in some sort of bag or wrapped in something.
It’s quite long.
That’s what she said.

https://x.com/MikeTX1836/status/1966354042461811091
(09-16-2025, 11:32 AM)Vermilion Wrote: I don’t have photos of the casings he wrote pro-antifa and pro-trans propaganda on either but they exist.

There’s no evidence he took apart that rifle.
Yes, I understand a screwdriver was found.
There is evidence, photos and videos, that he stuffed it in his pant leg and also in some sort of bag or wrapping…

Here’s a photo of him after he jumped off the roof.
He appears to be holding something long in some sort of bag or wrapped in something.
It’s quite long.
That’s what she said.

https://x.com/MikeTX1836/status/1966354042461811091

You know who has all the real answers.

That would be the little nutjub who committed the crime. 

Be nice to know what he has to say for himself.

I would still like to see the actual posts through, and those casings, now you come to mention it. 

The fact is through, if it's evidence.....
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-16-2025, 11:27 AM)ANNEE Wrote: Just a wild thought.

The video of him on the roof before he climbed down -- does not seem to show a rifle.  Unless it's in pieces in his backpack.

Could he have dropped it off the roof prior to his descent?

I'm on the same to similar page.

Again, the fella with all the answers is in custody.

Let's hope he gets to provide some. 

Because so many questions remain.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-16-2025, 11:38 AM)andy06shake Wrote: You know who has all the real answers.

That would be the little nutjub who committed the crime. 

Be nice to know what he has to say for himself.

I would still like to see the actual posts through, and those casings, now you come to mention it. 

The fact is through, if it's evidence.....



No comment on that photo?
I wish I could post it.
I’d be interested to hear opinions.
(09-16-2025, 11:43 AM)Vermilion Wrote: No comment on that photo?
I wish I could post it.
I’d be interested to hear opinions.

It's pretty blurry, would be my main comment.

And the shadow/reflection doesn't tell us much either.

Could it be a gun, yes, in theory.

But that weapon, unbroken, is 3.6-4.1ft long as far as im aware.

Do you really imagine he could have stuck the fully assembled thing down his pants without parts protruding?

Again, so many unanswered questions.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-16-2025, 10:51 AM)Harte Wrote: "Prove they didn't" and "prove they don't?"
You are using a logical fallacy here.
While proving a negative isn't always impossible, it is a fallacy to use it as if it means something in a logical argument.

It is your responsibility to "prove" that they did and prove that they do.

Harte


That's generally true but there are circumstances when negative claims can be proven

You can prove specific negative claims that can be rephrased as a positive claim

The claim was, 'Mossad didn't have the time, intel, skills or resources to pull off the assassination.' (negative)

It can be rephrased, "Mossad's time, skills, intel, resources are limited to the confines of this specified perimeter" (positive) 

Then you would provide evidence of that specific perimeter
At Charlie Kirk’s UVU event, 71-year-old George Zinn told police he fired at Kirk to divert attention so the real shooter could flee.

“I shot him, now shoot me,” Zinn reportedly said right after the incident.

He later told investigators his goal was to “draw attention from the real shooter.”

Zinn now faces a second-degree felony charge for obstruction of justice.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1967992813125017673

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