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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-16-2025, 07:50 AM)ANNEE Wrote: Haven’t we all learned by now early reports — comments — speculations — are rarely accurate?

This seems to me like a very complex & complicated case — that’s going to take a long time to untangle.


You know it, I know it, but some don't want to know it.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-16-2025, 07:51 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: The double standard comment was not about sourcing.......good job making incorrect assumptions yet again


Again, you are so completely lost on what bullshit argument you are making that you went back to talking about Kirks shooter, when the antisemite comment was about the Colorado shooter that YOU brough up. 

You really are helpless

If that is true, then I apologize. But you are still making right wing apologies and that is part of the problem.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-16-2025, 07:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: If that is true, then I apologize. But you are still making right wing apologies and that is part of the problem.

What apologies am I making? 

Please, explain
(09-16-2025, 08:06 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: What apologies am I making? 

Please, explain

Are you kidding me right now?

I'll leave it here for now because I just can't go around this unmerrygoround with you right now.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-16-2025, 08:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Are you kidding me right now?

I'll leave it here for now because I just can't go around this unmerrygoround with you right now.


That's what I thought, you want to throw the accusations around but can't back them up.   

Not surprising
(09-16-2025, 08:13 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: That's what I thought, you want to throw the accusations around but can't back them up.   

Not surprising

Literally other members are calling you out on the name calling thing and you say there is no back up proof. You need help.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-16-2025, 08:14 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Literally other members are calling you out on the name calling thing and you say there is no back up proof. You need help.

Except you are missing one key ingredient.....I am not demonizing. You are getting offended by the words I am using, there is a large difference. 

Now if I was calling you a Nazi or a Fascist then you could say I was demonizing you. See the difference? Of course you don't
(09-16-2025, 08:18 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Except you are missing one key ingredient.....I am not demonizing. You are getting offended by the words I am using, there is a large difference. 

Now if I was calling you a Nazi or a Fascist then you could say I was demonizing you. See the difference? Of course you don't

Believe me, I am not offended by you or any others here that name call because they can't defend their point in a discussion. It is pure pity I feel.

"The “4D” process—Dismiss, Discredit, Demonize, Destroy—is a pattern of behavior that has been used for centuries to dismiss valid concerns, undermine efforts, and silence voices of resistance, often through targeted tactics that paint the individual as a threat or a problem."
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-16-2025, 08:18 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Except you are missing one key ingredient.....I am not demonizing. You are getting offended by the words I am using, there is a large difference. 

Now if I was calling you a Nazi or a Fascist then you could say I was demonizing you. See the difference? Of course you don't

In a respectful discussion, you don't say things like "You have some real problems you should probably work through on your own time." That's not addressing any of the points you or they were making, it's just a personal attack.

When we talk to people on the "other side" of a political argument, it's extra important to avoid ad hominem. Else the discussion quickly becomes emotionally charged and devolves into bickering, and at that point nobody is learning anything.
(09-15-2025, 09:39 PM)Bush Master Wrote: So that's like if someone made the logical observation that, if we allow people to have cars, there will be more car deaths....as an excuse to run them down.

#liberallogic


He said this in week or two after the Nashville School Shooter where 3 nine year olds were murdered in cold blood.  I think people are insinuating that he felt other's death were acceptable result of the second amendment.  Timing is everything.



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