Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[UltraBudgie]

I actually don't think I've seen a single tweet from anyone saying anything remotely similar to that.

And here we must ask, what is the algorithm and the social media bubble that is presented to you highlighting? And, scarily, how much of that is engineered? And can we ever know?

I fear the answers are "selected divisiveness and bias reinforcement", "most of it", and "no".

[RichardHurt]

And here we must ask, what is the algorithm and the social media bubble that is presented to you highlighting? And, scarily, how much of that is engineered? And can we ever know?

I fear the answers are "selected divisiveness and bias reinforcement", "most of it", and "no".

You are a sly dog...Sorry birdie.
My bad

[agit8dchop]

And here we must ask, what is the algorithm and the social media bubble that is presented to you highlighting? And, scarily, how much of that is engineered? And can we ever know?

I fear the answers are "selected divisiveness and bias reinforcement", "most of it", and "no".

This level of ignorance and hate isn't an algorithm. Trends, fads and hashtags are not inflating the level of mental instability that exists in a specific demographic.

[Ignorant]

And what do you think is the main reason for a few on the right to be radicalized as you put it? I see the actions of the left causing it in the few cases that do occure.

Sorry, I forgot. The left cannot see itself and has no self awareness.

The main reason? I don't like the question because it's disregarding that radicalization is a complex issue with a multitude of causes. If I had to summarize it, I would point at the fact that decades of neoliberal economic policy has not brought the results that it promised, and that social media is amplifying radical voices that play the blame game, which people like you eat up. Everything is the left's fault, right?

[Ignorant]

I am talking about a wide reaching and integral way of operating and it's fairly obvious that the core to the lefts approach is intimidation, violence and control - which is not the same as the right.
This is of course nuanced. Really we're talking about the radical left and the radical right, but unfortunately the left has a major problem where the radical element is now the controlling and dominant element.

This is interesting because I would say the exact opposite. The extreme right, represented by Trump and his movement, has entirely taken over the republican party whereas the democratic party is still mostly controlled by the old establishment. Sanders lost two primaries convincingly, both of them to weak candidates who were carried to victory by the fact that they represented the more moderate wing of the party. They won because democratic voters are, or at least were then, still relatively moderate.

I think progressives have been gaining ground again since then, but the radical wing of the democratic party is still fighting for control when in the republican party the battle has long been won.

[Heiden]

This is interesting because I would say the exact opposite. The extreme right, represented by Trump and his movement, has entirely taken over the republican party whereas the democratic party is still mostly controlled by the old establishment. Sanders lost two primaries convincingly, both of them to weak candidates who were carried to victory by the fact that they represented the more moderate wing of the party. They won because democratic voters are, or at least were then, still relatively moderate.

I think progressives have been gaining ground again since then, but the radical wing of the democratic party is still fighting for control when in the republican party the battle has long been won.

MAGA isnt the far right, Its just the right

[UltraBudgie]

This level of ignorance and hate isn't an algorithm. Trends, fads and hashtags are not inflating the level of mental instability that exists in a specific demographic.

What level? Are there objective numbers on this?

Certainly it exists. And certainly it exists as something that is not an illusion of the system (well...). But I suspect that social media and outrage culture is inflating, say, an instance of 100,000 vile outspoken extremists into the perception of 10,000,000 who agree with them rather than, say, 1,000,000. Any amount's bad, of course, but we may be talking about a fraction of 1%, rather than the perceived "everyone on the left" (or right) that those who profit from divisiveness might claim is the case.

There is also the chilling effect from polarization, in that those who might take a more moderate position and speak for it risk being attacked from both sides. Their opinion becomes less visible.

[Ignorant]

MAGA isnt the far right, Its just the right

Exactly. MAGA is just the right now. When a populist movement takes over, it becomes the new norm.

[UltraBudgie]

Dang... cutting onions at the post and pics Erika Kirk put on her insta:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOhq3UBEd6l/

[Heiden]

Exactly. MAGA is just the right now. When a populist movement takes over, it becomes the new norm.

The right isnt much different now than 10 years ago, just because we all got behind Trump and Maga doesnt make it any farther right than it already was, no matter how much you want it