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09-22-2025, 08:02 AM
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(09-22-2025, 07:52 AM)Ignorant Wrote: Medical practitioners will tell you acetaminophen is safe in moderation, to stick with the recommended dosage and to only take it if necessary.
This is based on decades of research. We shouldn't readily believe one meta-analysis over established medical standards.
I'd wait for those standards to change before taking this seriously.
I am not concerned for myself. I usually only take half the maximum daily dose or less when needed.
The problem is all the damaged individuals that there is nothing that can be done for them. And I am not talking liver damage. They are not thinking the way others do.
I do believe the use while pregnant should be stopped until science proves it is safe based on this information.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(09-22-2025, 07:52 AM)Ignorant Wrote: Medical practitioners will tell you acetaminophen is safe in moderation, to stick with the recommended dosage and to only take it if necessary.
This is based on decades of research. We shouldn't readily believe one meta-analysis over established medical standards.
I'd wait for those standards to change before taking this seriously.
Exactly, I don't see that that study was reproduced yet. And we all know how often they get the science wrong. But there has always been the unwritten rule that pregnant women should not take anything without their doctor's approval. If the doctor's don't have a clue about the dangers of common over the counter medications, then the government has not been doing their job for the health and security of the people.
And as you say, it may end up that dosage amounts are the issue because we all aren't built the same, nor do our metabolisms process medications the same way. So one size does not fit all here. Are common over the counter medication doses for an average sized male adult?
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09-22-2025, 08:13 AM
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Over 100,000,000 streamed the CK tribute.
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This is JUST what they know about.
It’s likely much larger.
Over 100 million people just heard the Gospel proclaimed again and again by speaker after speaker. Truly remarkable.
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09-22-2025, 08:37 AM
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For those waiting on science. The Journal of the American Medical Association states that there is a slight increase risk for autism, ADHD and intellectual disabilities with use of acetaminophen during pregnancy.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fu...le/2817406
Now, why is this not common knowledge?
Was this in any part related to the shooting we are discussing in this thread and other mass shootings?
This needs investigation.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(09-22-2025, 08:37 AM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: For those waiting on science. The Journal of the American Medical Association states that there is a slight increase risk for autism, ADHD and intellectual disabilities with use of acetaminophen during pregnancy.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fu...le/2817406
Now, why is this not common knowledge?
Was this in any part related to the shooting we are discussing in this thread and other mass shootings?
This needs investigation.
It doesn't state that at all. All you would have needed to read to know that is the key points section so I'm wondering what part you did read.
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(09-22-2025, 09:05 AM)Ignorant Wrote: It doesn't state that at all. All you would have needed to read to know that is the key points section so I'm wondering what part you did read.
I read the numbers of the with and without the medicine. While the percentages are no much. They are higher with the acetaminophen.
The numbers are in the first paragraphs. The rest is explaining why you are not supposed to worry about it. Funny how they explain it away.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(09-20-2025, 10:48 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: You picked Trump to be your alpha?
The silver spoon brat who can't stop staring at his own reflection for 2 seconds?
Who decorated the Oval Office with Home Depot bling?
Some alpha
Aren't you purposefully ignoring the choices we had?
I mean, FFS, did you not watch Kamala's ignorant word salad?
She can't even read a script
Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“ Bertrand Russell
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09-22-2025, 10:44 AM
This post was last modified: 09-22-2025, 12:59 PM by Ignorant. 
(09-22-2025, 10:01 AM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: I read the numbers of the with and without the medicine. While the percentages are no much. They are higher with the acetaminophen.
The numbers are in the first paragraphs. The rest is explaining why you are not supposed to worry about it. Funny how they explain it away.
I'm not sure I can explain this any better than the paper authors already do, but I'll try.
They explain that the data based on which increased risk of disorders was found was without sibling controls, and that with sibling controls no increased risk was found. This suggests that the increased risk found by other studies is probably due to confounding. Confounding means that there is a third variable which accounts for the increased risk of disorders and which correlates with the use of acetaminophen during pregnancy. One example of this could be that pregnant women who are more likely to use acetaminophen are also more likely to use other, harmful medicines or even things like alcohol. I actually wouldn't be surprised if higher use of OTC medicines in general correlates with substance abuse or other behaviors that are harmful to the fetus. (I went and asked ChatGPT and according to it, some studies have indeed shown this correlation).
Sibling controls are important because it's the way to rule out this third variable. After all, if increased risk was found in children exposed to acetaminophen and no increased risk was found in their siblings, that means acetaminophen is very likely to be the cause. But in this case, increased risk was found both in children exposed to acetaminophen and in their siblings who weren't exposed. That suggests confounding and it invalidates the results of the non-sibling-controlled part of the study.
This also explains why the meta-analysis Trump likely referred to is not useful. It found that a majority of studies suggested increased risk, but it's very likely that those studies were done without sibling controls. I don't know that for sure, would have to dive into the individual studies, but the findings in this paper strongly suggest it.
You don't seem qualified to analyze research papers and you should probably defer to medical professionals. Before you know it you'll be refusing to give your child important vaccinations and they die of polio or something.
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I guess certain areas of discussion are getting throttled now, I get it.
Understandably too, the passion and exuberance of this situation is off the charts.
Everyone agrees, a shift has occurred, we can feel it.....even here.
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09-22-2025, 12:46 PM
This post was last modified: 09-22-2025, 01:15 PM by ANNEE. 
(09-22-2025, 10:44 AM)Ignorant Wrote: This also explains why the meta-analysis Trump likely referred to is not useful. It found that a majority of studies suggested increased risk, but it's very likely that those studies were done without sibling controls. I don't know that for sure, would have to dive into the individual studies, but the findings of this paper strongly suggest it.
Would love to see a complete list of what has an increased risk
if a pregnant woman takes it.
And apparently there was no Autism before 1955 when Tylenol was introduced.
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