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Body Marks Phenomena
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I wonder what is going on with this.  There are reports of both positive and negative things happening to people's bodies.
  • Spiritual Practices (prayer, meditation, intense ritual work)
  • Paranormal Phenomena (poltergeist activity, hauntings, entity encounters)
  • Contact Experiences (alien abductions, visitations, altered states)
  • Energetic Manifestations (kundalini awakening, energy healing, bioelectrical phenomena)

Wounds, bruises to runes, spiritual figures, snake patterns from kundalini practices/awaking's etc. I have also heard about organic implants and the whole abduction thing.

Without really going into details I have experience in this and sought medical advise and had a biopsy done.  The results was just weird marks and benign and happened to matched some other uhmm, other things going on at the time....not recent

Curious how common this is and if it's just not talked about.
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#2
I honestly believe I live in an open air asylum. It's all very sad really.
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#3
(03-10-2025, 06:13 AM)midicon Wrote: I honestly believe I live in an open air asylum. It's all very sad really.

it's better to externalize one's insanity rather than hold all that stuff inside, wouldn't you say?

also, cattle tags. or astral markers. or biomorphic harmonics. or nanotechnology aka biology. all that!
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(03-10-2025, 08:08 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: it's better to externalize one's insanity rather than hold all that stuff inside, wouldn't you say?

also, cattle tags. or astral markers. or biomorphic harmonics. or nanotechnology aka biology. all that!

Jung once thought he had found a perfectly balanced individual, then added wryly 'a five minute chat with his wife soon put paid to that'. Sorry, I just wanted to throw that in as I found it funny.

If someone posts on here something about 'table rapping' or some such should it not be challenged? This site is called Deny Ignorance after all. So much madness Ultra. We now dress it up and couch it in modernity.

Then there are those caught up in all the religious madness that surrounds us. The list is endless.
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#5
true midi true. i've found nothing so 'ignorant' as the fervent belief that one has found 'truth' in this world. i'm reminded of adjacent thread's discussion of mr crowley, peddling engaging degeneracies of belief. i do think he was in some way motivated by a thought that all this world really offers is a sort of negative space, an exploration of what isn't true, and that one might serve the discovery of internal truth by giving the initiate lies upon lies, cleaving to the truth so to speak, and when/if they emerge, they will perhaps have discovered something in themselves. it's not the charlatan that matters, it's the vision of desire to believe that the charlatan evokes that matters and is significant, for that says something true about ourselves that we have not faced, hence its externalization.

sounds like that jung fellow found a happy marriage.
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(03-10-2025, 06:13 AM)midicon Wrote: I honestly believe I live in an open air asylum. It's all very sad really.

If saying stuff that you don't want to hear makes me crazy then I'm happy to carry the mantle. The name of your asylum is Elysium, you could just leave, but you won't.
 
(03-10-2025, 08:08 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: it's better to externalize one's insanity rather than hold all that stuff inside, wouldn't you say?

also, cattle tags. or astral markers. or biomorphic harmonics. or nanotechnology aka biology. all that!

Ja, better...

Astral markers and biomorphic harmonics sounds interesting. Cattle tags I object to.
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#7
Guess I'm going to have to do this myself.

Molecules of Silence: Effects of Meditation on Gene Expression and Epigenetics - 2020
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7431950/

Study reveals gene expression changes with meditation - 2013
https://news.wisc.edu/study-reveals-gene...editation/

Meditation Can Change Your Brain And Your Genes - 2018
https://www.communitymedical.org/about-u...your-genes

Harvard Study finds that Meditation Impacts DNA -2011
https://drdavidhamilton.com/harvard-stud...pacts-dna/

Remodeling the Epigenome Through Meditation: Effects on Brain, Body, and Well-being -2025
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39820865/

Neurobiological Changes Induced by Mindfulness and Meditation: A Systematic Review - 2024
https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9059/12/11/2613

Neurobiological and anti-aging benefits of yoga: A comprehensive review of recent advances in non-pharmacological therapy - 2024
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...6524001967
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(03-10-2025, 02:14 PM)Sirius Wrote: Guess I'm going to have to do this myself.

Molecules of Silence: Effects of Meditation on Gene Expression and Epigenetics - 2020
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7431950/

Study reveals gene expression changes with meditation - 2013
https://news.wisc.edu/study-reveals-gene...editation/

Meditation Can Change Your Brain And Your Genes - 2018
https://www.communitymedical.org/about-u...your-genes

Harvard Study finds that Meditation Impacts DNA -2011
https://drdavidhamilton.com/harvard-stud...pacts-dna/

Remodeling the Epigenome Through Meditation: Effects on Brain, Body, and Well-being -2025
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39820865/

Neurobiological Changes Induced by Mindfulness and Meditation: A Systematic Review - 2024
https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9059/12/11/2613

Neurobiological and anti-aging benefits of yoga: A comprehensive review of recent advances in non-pharmacological therapy - 2024
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...6524001967

Hey Serious :)
Harvard study is a great read.
It makes sense

Even Austin Osman Spare AOS was talking about atavistic resurgence. That's the positive side of using our genetic inheritance. but it ties into the fact that our forebears bequeath us with certain tendencies and traits. We must overcome them to be more Ourselves.
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#9
(03-10-2025, 09:07 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: true midi true. i've found nothing so 'ignorant' as the fervent belief that one has found 'truth' in this world. i'm reminded of adjacent thread's discussion of mr crowley, peddling engaging degeneracies of belief. i do think he was in some way motivated by a thought that all this world really offers is a sort of negative space, an exploration of what isn't true, and that one might serve the discovery of internal truth by giving the initiate lies upon lies, cleaving to the truth so to speak, and when/if they emerge, they will perhaps have discovered something in themselves. it's not the charlatan that matters, it's the vision of desire to believe that the charlatan evokes that matters and is significant, for that says something true about ourselves that we have not faced, hence its externalization.

sounds like that jung fellow found a happy marriage.

I hope you are not talking about myself in regards to Mr Crowley. I am a follower of his system if only because it works . Folks often put the cart before the horse and often come with a predisposed background of bigoted or closeminded systems like Christianity or Islam or Judaism. Hence my admonitions in other threads against religion and for Spirituality.   That said, there are no degeneracies that i have been practising based on Thelema, it is only yoga, meditation, pranayama, dharana, and ritual (prayer if you will) to invoke ones Inner Self which ties in with quantum physics and holy guardian angels. I trust you are mature enough to understand.  
There is nothing at all that I have read in his texts that offer the idea that this world offers a negative space.  Can you cite or show me a citation for that? 
I am not defending the 'demon Crowley' I am merely asking for clarification in your missive.
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(03-10-2025, 09:07 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: true midi true. i've found nothing so 'ignorant' as the fervent belief that one has found 'truth' in this world. i'm reminded of adjacent thread's discussion of mr crowley, peddling engaging degeneracies of belief. i do think he was in some way motivated by a thought that all this world really offers is a sort of negative space, an exploration of what isn't true, and that one might serve the discovery of internal truth by giving the initiate lies upon lies, cleaving to the truth so to speak, and when/if they emerge, they will perhaps have discovered something in themselves. it's not the charlatan that matters, it's the vision of desire to believe that the charlatan evokes that matters and is significant, for that says something true about ourselves that we have not faced, hence its externalization.

sounds like that jung fellow found a happy marriage.


Crowely was an odious individual. I recall many years ago owning a copy of Magick in theory and practice. The only thing that gave me pause for thought was a footnote on one of the pages that said all the rituals were compatible with Royal Arch freemasonry. 
I grew up surrounded by freemasons but had never connected them with magic rituals, quite the opposite in fact.  That led me to the Sufi and people like Gurdjieff who as the legend goes met Crowley at one of his 'dinners' and kicked him out lol.

Thanks for replying UltraBudge
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