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[UltraBudgie]

In physics, everything we know involves oscillations, waves, and vibrations.

Light is an electromagnetic wave with a frequency.

Matter behaves like waves at the quantum level (wave–particle duality).

Sound is literally vibration through a medium.

And Atoms vibrate, and their vibrations influence temperature and states of matter.

Reality, as we understand the place, is indeed all about frequency and vibration.

This may be true of science's perception of the world, but it is fundamentally unbiblical when referring to God and Jesus:

Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I change not"
Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

In scripture, God is portrayed as eternally consistent, not subject to external influence, and unchanging in character, promises, and nature. He does not "vibrate".

[andy06shake]

This may be true of science's perception of the world, but it is fundamentally unbiblical when referring to God and Jesus:

Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I change not"
Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

In scripture, God is portrayed as eternally consistent, not subject to external influence, and unchanging in character, promises, and nature. He does not "vibrate".

Well, his universe "vibrates", no doubt about that "fact".

Spacetime constantly warps and ripples when influenced by mass and energy.

As to what God does in his personal time, i would not care to speculate, never having met the fellow.

Also, just to point out, we exist in this reality in our present condition, not heaven, where God apparently does not "vibrate". 

[UltraBudgie]

As to what God does in his personal time, i would not care to speculate, never having met the fellow.

Open your heart, andy06shake, that the LORD might fill it!



(sorry, I thought that's what we're doing in this thread)

[andy06shake]

Open your heart, andy06shake, that the LORD might fill it!



(sorry, I thought that's what we're doing in this thread)

My heart is open UltraBudgie, same as my mind. 

But facts are still facts.

And the fact is, this universe is all about frequency and vibration.

If that were not the case, reality would look radically different from the way it appears.

[TheWay]

Satan's servants? Are you referring to Jews? Because that seems to be a theme here. This isn't a platform to bash Jews and Catholics. I believe you're looking for Stormfront.

In that specific comment I wasn't speaking about any particular subset of people. Whoever writes something and falsely attributes it to Biblical figures is certainly Satan's servant. I'm not sure how well versed you are on Bible Scripture, but would you not agree with this, theshadowknows? God explicitly commands that we must not add or take away from His word (Proverbs 30:5-6; Deuteronomy 4:2; Revelation 22:18-19; 2 Corinthians 4:2; 1 Corinthians 4:6).

Furthermore, I'm a Jew according to Bible Scripture. All true Christians are Jews—Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God." (Romans 2:28-29) "Jew" was never solely about race, genetics, or ethnicity. It was about being part of the covenant people of God, who were given the Law and promises (Romans 9:3–8). It involved faithful participation in God's revealed will, especially under the Old Covenant. I'm not speaking against true Jews. However, I have been revealing what the Bible says, which implicates both the Roman Catholic Church as a false "Christian" institution and those who say they are Jews, but are not, and do lie, but are a synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9; 3:9).

My hope is that all people—regardless of affiliation—come to a knowledge of the truth and be saved (refer John 8:32). As it is written, "... 'Come out of her, my people, that you have no participation in her sins, and that you don’t receive of her plagues, for her sins have reached to the sky, and God has remembered her iniquities.'" (Revelation 18:4-5) and, "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather even reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. But all things, when they are reproved, are revealed by the light, for everything that reveals is light. Therefore he says, 'Awake, you who sleep, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.'" (Ephesians 5:11-14)

This is, after all, a conspiracy forum. If Bible Scripture exposes deception within powerful religious institutions, shouldn’t that be worth examining and talking about? If these claims are true, they may represent some of the most significant spiritual conspiracies in existence.

[UltraBudgie]

Well, his universe "vibrates", no doubt about that "fact".

Yeah, and that's a good distinction I think -- between God and God's Creation.

Some say they can see God everywhere. But it's always through a glass darkly, when perceived in the world, isn't it? Through our perception, our senses, and of what has been put before them. Is that God?

It's like the distinction between pantheism and panentheism:

Panentheism is the belief that the divine interpenetrates every part of the universe and also extends beyond it, meaning that while the universe is within God, God is greater than the universe. The term was coined in 1828 by philosopher Karl Krause to distinguish it from pantheism, which asserts that the universe and God are identical.

God being the eternal and unchanging as seen from within Creation, which as you rightly point out is constantly vibrating in every aspect, changeable, variable.

I think that's why the metaphors of God as a "rock" and "foundation" are so powerful. Because nothing else in this Universe seems adequate as such.

[TheWay]

Pharisees believed as you but Jesus said they were wrong...

Luke 17:20-21 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is within you.”. 

Luke 11:52  "Woe to you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge. You have not entered in yourselves, and hindered them from entering".

He's coming whether you like it or not, Swada. No doomsday bunker will save you.

“But immediately after the suffering of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. (Matthew 24:29-31)

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes of the earth will mourn over him. Even so, Amen. (Revelation 1:7)

For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with God’s trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever. (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

[andy06shake]

Yeah, and that's a good distinction I think -- between God and God's Creation.

Some say they can see God everywhere. But it's always through a glass darkly, when perceived in the world, isn't it? Through our perception, our senses, and of what has been put before them. Is that God?

It's like the distinction between pantheism and panentheism:


God being the eternal and unchanging as seen from within Creation, which as you rightly point out is constantly vibrating in every aspect, changeable, variable.

I think that's why the metaphors of God as a "rock" and "foundation" are so powerful. Because nothing else in this Universe seems adequate as such.

I suppose to see God everywhere may not mean in things themselves, but more in the mystery that animates them. 

Physics and mathematics describe how our universe functions.

But the question as to why there is a universe at all, why there is order instead of nothing.

Kind of slips past physics.

That's where the real mystery resides, and maybe where we will find God.

[TheWay]

Well, his universe "vibrates", no doubt about that "fact".

Spacetime constantly warps and ripples when influenced by mass and energy.

As to what God does in his personal time, i would not care to speculate, never having met the fellow.

Also, just to point out, we exist in this reality in our present condition, not heaven, where God apparently does not "vibrate". 

See andy06shake, you too are a religious man. Your priests just happen to be Einstein, Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking, and Richard Feynman—men whose words are treated with near-scriptural reverence in scientific communities. Everyone worships something. The only question is: is it true?

[andy06shake]

See andy06shake, you too are a religious man. Your priests just happen to be Einstein, Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking, and Richard Feynman—men whose words are treated with near-scriptural reverence in scientific communities. Everyone worships something. The only question is: is it true?

The difference being that belief in a scientific principle isn't blind faith.

Science is always open to challenge.

Most organised religious practices, i find not so much.

But yes, everyone worships something.

And we naturally seek meaning and anchors for understanding.

Whether that be gods, ideals, or science.