Are you ready for the return of Jesus Christ? Have you been cleansed by His blood?

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I don't worship anything period. I can't imagine worshiping something.

[andy06shake]

I don't worship anything period. I can't imagine worshiping something.

Ok, but worship can take many forms that aren't obvious at first glance.

Love could be seen as a form of worship.

Both contain a measure of devotion and awe.

Im sure you love lots of things and people....

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Ok, but worship can take many forms that aren't obvious at first glance.

Love could be seen as a form of worship.

Both contain a measure of devotion and awe.

Im sure you love lots of things and people....

You are just playing semantics here Andy. You are better than that. We don't worship those we love. We don't bow down and pray to them. I also don't think devotion or awe requires worship. I'm not saying this to be contrary though. I truly don't worship anything. The idea of it doesn't make any sense to me.

[quintessentone]

Worship's 2nd meaning in the dictionary:

"2
: to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion
a celebrity worshipped by her fans"

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Worship's 2nd meaning in the dictionary:

"2
: to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion
a celebrity worshipped by her fans"

This thread is about religion, that is the context. For the OP to somehow say that worshiping a deity is the same as having a trust or whatever in science is silly.

We can say that a fan worships a celebrity but it's not the same thing as religion.

Einstein, Sagan and Hawking are not priests. People aren't praying for miracles from celebrities. Or indeed looking for some sort of miraculous intervention or some such.

[quintessentone]

This thread is about religion, that is the context. For the OP to somehow say that worshiping a deity is the same as having a trust or whatever in science is silly.

We can say that a fan worships a celebrity but it's not the same thing as religion.

I think this thread is about one's beliefs, yes, steeped in Christian religion's dogma and there are two questions posed by the OP, the first is do you believe, and the second, do you believe. It has to do specifically with belief in Jesus as the Messiah and his return and whether or not you believe his death cleansed us all of our sins.

Maybe the worshipping part should be left to the OPs other thread where the commandment of worship is addressed.

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I think this thread is about one's beliefs, yes, steeped in Christian religion's dogma and there are two questions posed by the OP, the first is do you believe, and the second, do you believe. It has to do specifically with belief in Jesus as the Messiah and his return and whether or not you believe his death cleansed us all of our sins.

Maybe the worshipping part should be left to the OPs other thread where the commandment of worship is addressed.

The OP said that his worship is the same as people believing in science and in fact is saying that to justify his own religious belief. It's not the same and scientists aren't priests. That's all I was addressing really.

Anyway I've said enough. It's all good! Well almost all good lol.

[andy06shake]

You are just playing semantics here Andy. You are better than that. We don't worship those we love. We don't bow down and pray to them. I also don't think devotion or awe requires worship. I'm not saying this to be contrary though. I truly don't worship anything. The idea of it doesn't make any sense to me.

What about ideas and principles, do you hold with any of those?

Of course you do, after all, who doesn't?

Revering specific concepts, like freedom or truth, could also be considered a form of worship.

And it's not just semantics because the ideas and principles we hold dear shape how we act and organise our lives.

Additionally, if we don't worship the ones that we love, then why do people say the likes of "he/she worships the ground that he/she walks on?"

[andy06shake]

The OP said that his worship is the same as people believing in science and in fact is saying that to justify his own religious belief. It's not the same and scientists aren't priests. That's all I was addressing really.

Anyway I've said enough. It's all good! Well almost all good lol.

I did not say it was the same, but very similar, and that, imho, everyone worships something.

[Swada]

He's coming whether you like it or not, Swada. No doomsday bunker will save you.

Paul said the perishable is not going to inherit the imperishable.  So my perishable (body, mind, ego) is a goner anyways. If not by Jesus, then certainly death, brought about from old age and/or disease.  From dust to dust we go as genesis puts it.

The nature of the imperishable was not shared publically in Christianity.  The only information we have exists in Gospel of Thomas “When you make the two into one, and make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and so make the male and the female a single one so that the male won’t be male nor the female female; when you make eyes in the place of an eye, a hand in the place of a hand, a foot in the place of a foot, and an image in the place of an image; then you’ll enter [the kingdom].” 

Before we can enter the temple. We need be cleansed of all earthly desires (holy ghost assist with this).  As Apostle John states "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.  The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever."

That be why only a few find the narrow path.