'Alternate Theories Of UFO Origin'.

[Sirius]

What I meant by that is time travel goes both ways. Past things coming to the future, the future going to the past. Everything exists now.

Maybe the future is visible in the past, feels like something obvious to say...old news.  Don't fall in time traps.

[Darkorange]

I just read what you typed now again, your dropping the fantastical stuff and dismissing it as such.

What fantastical stuff? I dismissed what I typed giving my explanation of why. No? It was not a dismissal per se...simply asking more questions.

On the other note, there I believe is a connection between us and them on the level of supernatural. Not sure how to explain. May be another time in another post.

[sahgwa]

What fantastical stuff? I dismissed what I typed giving my explanation of why. No? It was not a dismissal per se...simply asking more questions.

On the other note, there I believe is a connection between us and them on the level of supernatural. Not sure how to explain. May be another time in another post.

If we are only talking about ' the greys' I think they exist naturally outside of time in a naturally nonphysical state. The connection between us is I think spiritual in that it is nonphysical; they can enter dreams, and pull people out of their bodies.

[Darkorange]

If we are only talking about ' the greys' I think they exist naturally outside of time in a naturally nonphysical state. The connection between us is I think spiritual in that it is nonphysical; they can enter dreams, and pull people out of their bodies.

May be. I've never seen a grey. None of other alien beings forms. I've only seen their tech in the sky, yes. Or perhaps I have seen an alien being? That very tall beautiful woman crossing a lonely intersection while I was on a red light waiting. It was a night after when I wished to meet them. May be nothing burger and my imagination but felt strange about that encounter.

[Karl12]

Thanks for all the refreshingly thought provoking replies - know I've said it before but there are lots of very intelligent people on this forum lol (and I'm not just saying that).

Regarding the changing shapes (and merging together aspect) also thought there were some important observations from Vallee in this 1990 interview.

Objects from 'anywhere and anytime' get brought up - also the fact that UFOs are 'a lot of energy in a small space' (light, microwaves and pulsed microwaves) - fascinating stuff.









As for the high strangeness antics what happened to this chap after witnessing a huge red circular object in the sky (and two hairy hominids) is a bit of an eye-opener.



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Cheers.

[Darkorange]

What I meant by that is time travel goes both ways. Past things coming to the future, the future going to the past. Everything exists now.

Maybe the future is visible in the past, feels like something obvious to say...old news.  Don't fall in time traps.

i don't think time travel goes both ways per se. the future is not going to the past. you said yourself 'past thing coming to the future'. the future can be visible only when one derives possible outcomes based on probability or other law, i think. seems to me the only way to travel into the past is to start 'recording' the current in order to return to exact moment in the past. massive computer can start recording the position of every atom as the time passes. then, one can reverse play back into the 'past' to the desired time stamp.

i liked the folklore flavor touch to witnesses accounts theme. yes, how else an encounter with unknown can be interpreted by rural area dwellers in 1954.
'...Possibly an allusion to Ireland's leprechauns could account for the derisive term of "little green men," in referring to aliens. ossibly an allusion to Ireland's leprechauns could account for the derisive term of "little green men," in referring to aliens..."

link to the story is here

[Sirius]

i don't think time travel goes both ways per se. the future is not going to the past. you said yourself 'past thing coming to the future'. the future can be visible only when one derives possible outcomes based on probability or other law, i think. seems to me the only way to travel into the past is to start 'recording' the current in order to return to exact moment in the past. massive computer can start recording the position of every atom as the time passes. then, one can reverse play back into the 'past' to the desired time stamp.

i liked the folklore flavor touch to witnesses accounts theme. yes, how else an encounter with unknown can be interpreted by rural area dwellers in 1954.
'...Possibly an allusion to Ireland's leprechauns could account for the derisive term of "little green men," in referring to aliens. ossibly an allusion to Ireland's leprechauns could account for the derisive term of "little green men," in referring to aliens..."

link to the story is here

I fully subscribe to the idea of time travel. The things I say is based on all the CE's, I have experienced just about everything up to CE7. Yes folks, I fucked ghost.

I don't have a answer to the phenomena (think there is more than one thing going on), I can only share what I have experienced. The only thing that keeps me sane is that fact that many of the experiences is shared, literally having someone next to me where I can ask "are you seeing this shit?!".

Paranormal activity has been a constant thing for me. After the craft that showed up recently I have something messing with the electronics in my house and now I'm trying to figure out how to communicate with it. Still need to make a thread on it.

The little green men I believe was part of disinfo campaign.

[Nerb]

If we are only talking about ' the greys' I think they exist naturally outside of time in a naturally nonphysical state. The connection between us is I think spiritual in that it is nonphysical; they can enter dreams, and pull people out of their bodies.

Maybe it is US doing things quite powerful in our dreams and they are sent to guide us so we don't fail to return and maybe all those memories of anal probing are secret desires by the dreamer. 

[Sirius]

Maybe it is US doing things quite powerful in our dreams and they are sent to guide us so we don't fail to return and maybe all those memories of anal probing are secret desires by the dreamer. 

Allot of it is clearly it, but it's real to the people, if it's "real real" doesn't matter.  For that person it happened and that will always be there for them.

I guess from this I could say this is all a bit insidious because the phenomena hides in here and I have to questions why? Sure it's the perfect hiding spot, but also wow, the things people go through and are put through.

great, now I have deja vu

[Darkorange]

I fully subscribe to the idea of time travel. The things I say is based on all the CE's, I have experienced just about everything up to CE7. Yes folks, I fucked ghost.



The little green men I believe was part of disinfo campaign.

You will have to educate me a little....what is CE?
Time travel I referred to is from scientific point of view, not something spiritual where you time travel in any direction without leaving your sofa..with friends, of course, with whom you shared that experience.

Green men from the case I posted on ufocasebook I totally believe. Yet another species taken as 'green men'. I see nothing wrong with telling their encounter and how based on folklore their brains processed the fact with explanation. Unless you meat something else.

I am no fun to talk to))