'Alternate Theories Of UFO Origin'.

[sahgwa]

Certainly appreciated mate (as are all the other replies) and suppose it's well worth fleshing out (or at least entertaining) all the other myriad UFO hypotheses out there.

If you want to really go off the reservation when it comes to the supra-normal then thought this was a truly fascinating chat with author Joshuah Cutchin and I would certainly recommend all his other books (haven't read 'Ecology Of Souls' yet).

It's a pretty wild ride covering high strangeness UFO occupant antics sharing specific parallels with Fae lore, shamanic practise, Near Death Experience aspects, DMT/Astral/ Consciousness studies etc. - time anomalies, the OZ factor, Jungian UFO research and 'Psychopomp' contact modalities also get brought up as well as a whole host of other freaky aspects.




[Video: https://youtu.be/xIJks-GxVgU]



Hancock also brings up similar analogues in this old clip and there are quite a number of HS UFO occupant cases where folks have reported seeing 'dead relatives' (also encountering poltergeist activity).




[Video: https://youtu.be/VndUZgpCkT8]



You've also got quite a number of insanely crazy sounding high strangeness incidents like this one reported by seemingly normal, every day people so God knows what's going on lol.




[Video: https://youtu.be/tK5EldbpOUI]

Cheers.

Bigfoot is always crazy, since a lot of them point to nothing about cryptozoology and everything about paranormal 'UFO'logy.
A case I love in Colorado had a rancher in the mountains spot a UFO landing and the humanoids got out, and controlled a Bigfoot with a kind of remote control. Then the Bigfoot kind of winked out of existence. 

And, that dude in the red shirt has quite the neck.

[Karl12]

Bigfoot is always crazy, since a lot of them point to nothing about cryptozoology and everything about paranormal 'UFO'logy.
A case I love in Colorado had a rancher in the mountains spot a UFO landing and the humanoids got out, and controlled a Bigfoot with a kind of remote control. Then the Bigfoot kind of winked out of existence. 

And, that dude in the red shirt has quite the neck.

Bravo mate as much as I didn't want to believe it there are tonnes of simultaneous Sasquatch, poltergeist, UFO cases out there and looks like the CIA BFRO were actively filtering and editing out for decades (the leadership not the membership).


'Where the footprints end' by Cutchin is a truly remarkable book.

Cheers.

[Karl12]

[AlienSun]

Given that the human mind has the active function of cognitive dissonance, which has often puzzled me, I have often wondered about the utility of that aspect.  Some of the comments herein allows me to suspect for the first time that the nitty-gritty segments involved in a genuine understanding of what is true reality is beyond human comprehension, never to be fully known understood.  If one approaches that position, is there a safe position of observation, or does cognitive dissonance intercede to rule the day?

[UltraBudgie]

Given that the human mind has the active function of cognitive dissonance, which has often puzzled me before, I have often wondered about the utility of that aspect.  Some of the comments herein allows me to suspect for the first time that the nitty-gritty segments involved in a genuine understanding of what is true reality is beyond human comprehension, never to be fully known let alone understood.  If one approaches that position, is there a safe position of observation, or does cognitive dissonance intercede to rule the day?

This touches on something I wrote a thread about: cognitive dissonance; we basically have two halves of our brains each with potentially different world-views, and ways of perceiving and working with "truth". One half that makes models, another that uses them. It's more efficient that the part of ourselves that uses model really believe that those models are real. It will insist they are.

Thread: https://denyignorance.com/Thread-The-Tyr...f-the-Left

Once this basic component of human physiology/psychology is seen, it's impossible to un-see. It's everywhere. I very much recommend the writings of Dr Iain McGilchrist on this matter.

And edit to add, the UFO phenomena is a perfect example of this. The dissonance between experiencers and skeptics, while it is based in understandable criticism, so often devolves into conflict between left and right brain modelling. Essentially, the left-brain, and individuals ruled by it, is incapable of imagining or accepting a reality outside of its model of truth. Everything must fit; it is literally blind to what it cannot manipulate within that model.

A well-functioning and self-realized person is capable of using both their left and right brain faculties, in cooperation rather than conflict or suppression. Unfortunately, modern society seems to abhor such empowered thinking, being built in large part upon dependent conformity.

[Rigel4]

UFO ... and escaped manifestation from the LSD mind of a 60's hippy !

Far out ... !

[AlienSun]

This touches on something I wrote a thread about: cognitive dissonance; we basically have two halves of our brains each with potentially different world-views, and ways of perceiving and working with "truth". One half that makes models, another that uses them. It's more efficient that the part of ourselves that uses model really believe that those models are real. It will insist they are.

Thread: https://denyignorance.com/Thread-The-Tyr...f-the-Left

Once this basic component of human physiology/psychology is seen, it's impossible to un-see. It's everywhere. I very much recommend the writings of Dr Iain McGilchrist on this matter.

And edit to add, the UFO phenomena is a perfect example of this. The dissonance between experiencers and skeptics, while it is based in understandable criticism, so often devolves into conflict between left and right brain modelling. Essentially, the left-brain, and individuals ruled by it, is incapable of imagining or accepting a reality outside of its model of truth. Everything must fit; it is literally blind to what it cannot manipulate within that model.

A well-functioning and self-realized person is capable of using both their left and right brain faculties, in cooperation rather than conflict or suppression. Unfortunately, modern society seems to abhor such empowered thinking, being built in large part upon dependent conformity.

[AlienSun]

So, a new condition comes, a new age, a separation away from the animalistic mindset that once and (almost) always was, toward a preliminary preview of it all.  --We are being schooled.

Ooops! Over my paygrade again.

[Karl12]

Given that the human mind has the active function of cognitive dissonance, which has often puzzled me, I have often wondered about the utility of that aspect.  Some of the comments herein allows me to suspect for the first time that the nitty-gritty segments involved in a genuine understanding of what is true reality is beyond human comprehension, never to be fully known understood.  If one approaches that position, is there a safe position of observation, or does cognitive dissonance intercede to rule the day?

Yes couldn't agree more mate but personally do think true objectivity can be achieved (or at least verifiable evidence based group consensus) - otherwise everything would just be pseudoscience.

That said there is colossal corruption in mainstream science and reckon we are like infants when it comes to the true nature of what we deem 'reality' (consciousness, time etc.).

Have posted this cheeky pie-chart more than once on this forum but do love it lol.








Loads (and loads) of UFO info, speculation and conjecture actively removed from the internet these days mate and really do wonder why that is (and by whom) - will keep on posting it though and here's a relevant question by Caravaca (link now deleted).

• "The only thing UFO events share is their basic structure. The witness will report: 1. that he has seen a "thing" flying in the sky, 2. later, that this "thing" has landed, and 3. from this "thing" some beings have descended. But, incomprehensibly, these aspects, which should have greater homogeneity, are highly malleable and in each case, the elements "thing" and "beings" will be surprisingly different in size, shape and colors. And this has been noted in an overwhelming and revealing way, why has this particular fact not given rise to more debate?"

Posted this vid on another thread but also thought Zelia made a great point about 'orbs' and situational 'context'.

Basically 'if you see one in the sky it's a UFO, if you see one in a graveyard it's a ghost, if you see one with a cryptid in a forest you're crazy etc.'.



See 35:15



If report literature is to be believed regarding 'orb' antics 'across the board' in UFO, poltergeist and cryptid cases then pretty curious how all three subjects sometimes generate EM effects, strange odours, buzzing sounds, time anomalies, the Oz effect etc.

Went down the 'intelligent plasma' rabbit hole a few years back and there really are some pretty remarkable scientific aspects - regarding archetype constructs there's also the historical shamanistic angle where 'sentient light forms' were reported to be 'tricksters' which somehow affected the observer's consciousness.


From 2:00






Could be nothing but thought it well worth a post (as if this thread couldn't get any weirder lol).

Cheers.

[Sirius]

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Not far off