3rd shooting in Minnesota.

[Oldcarpy2]

The question was, 

who among our non-US posters is willing to vote to create a situation in which millions can skate in illegally? 

First, you say no Joe Biden opened your borders but your immigration is "legal and regulated," then you say most of them wind up contributing.  Surprise, surprise. 

Are you willing to vote to change your policy to open borders, then to interfere with law enforcement when they try to undo the situation?

Not our borders in the UK.


Biden was US President 

What are you on about?

[Oldcarpy2]

Did he physically interfere with law enforcement, councilor?

Last I looked, I am not a Councillor.

Unless I got voted in without actually standing for election to my local Council?

[DBCowboy]

Last I looked, I am not a Councillor.

Unless I got voted in without actually standing for election to my local Council?

It's what we call lawyers in "the colonies"

[andy06shake]

The question was, 

who among our non-US posters is willing to vote to create a situation in which millions can skate in illegally? 

First, you say no Joe Biden opened your borders but your immigration is "legal and regulated," then you say most of them wind up contributing.  Surprise, surprise. 

Are you willing to vote to change your policy to open borders, then to interfere with law enforcement when they try to undo the situation?

I don't recall mentioning Joe Biden.

And non-US citizens can't vote as far as im aware in your nation.

I live on an island Solvedit, geography dictates or borders are not exactly open, so...

As to who i will vote for, its about 4 years away, i don't have a clue....

[Solvedit]

Second, evidence from my own nation, the US, and EU, consistently shows immigrants, are more likely to work, and pay taxes, than to commit benefit fraud.

Thirdly, public aid costs are a small part of our budgets, a lot of migrants tend to end up contributing more over time than they receive.

And that's especially so in your own nation.

Where many of the poor sods pay into social security and medicare programs they will never be able to use or claim. 

First, you can't be sure they're tracking undocumented people thoroughly.

Second, there may be a replacement going on in which sanctuary cities don't like their own urban poor but realize they may be eligible for federal support on some sort of benefits.  The cancellation of most domestic auto production suggests this is the case.  Unfortunate shows like "hardcore pawn" may have furthered the cause of people who want to pull this off.  Outtakes are available on Youtube.

[chr0naut]

Well now you have the Minnesota National Guard that'll probably shoot federal law enforcement.

But you do you, boo.

Well, if they did open fire on ICE, they would only be doing their Constitutional duty according to the 2nd Amendment and the Federalist papers:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Federalist No. 29

Federalist No. 46

Explaining the proposed Second Amendment, Madison’s ally Tench Coxe, a delegate to the Continental Congress for Pennsylvania, wrote: “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”

(This underlines why the 2nd Amendment is a stupid law.)

Trump has not just threatened, but has attempted to break the balance of powers of the other branches of US government, and assert himself as the supreme executive authority over the country. He has become a tyrant.

Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill act grants ICE more money and authority over existing Federal forces and groups (to which they are not answerable). They are his 'storm troopers' mandated for action against an ethnic minority, but that has also committed collateral acts of violence, terror and oppression against the rest of the citizenry of the country.

[KrustyKrab]

I never blamed Republicans, I blame Trump.

And yes, he is trying to cause chaos, because that's what he does. From what I see on social media, that is exactly what some Republicans voted for, they have said it time and again. Trump is giving them what they want.

If the tactics that ICE was using in Minnesota were standard, and effective, there would be no reason to make a change, and there would be no reason for a congressional investigation.

The reason Homan is being brought in to fix this mess is because he advocated for a lower profile, targeted approach. That just wasn't trumps first choice, the ratings suck even if it is more effective.

So, Trump who’s deporting a lot of murderers, rapist, yada, yada…is the one creating the chaos by enforcing immigration law and not the people like Walz, Frey, Ellison who are actually the ones inciting the discourse?    You’re on another planet bud, this isn’t Trump creating the chaos, it’s being manufactured by the leftist arseholes, seriously take you blinders off and wake up.  

Why isn’t it going on in all cities?   Most of the cities in the country are having little to no problems executing ICE operations.   They’re govs for the most part are working with ICE and their officials aren’t inciting violence and wala no problems.   If Trump was creating the chaos wouldn’t it be happening everywhere?   The chaos has been mostly a Minnesota thing, ya know?
Ask yourself why?   Maybe think for yourself without your handlers doing it for you on this one.  

Please tell me how Trump is creating chaos in the country???   I can’t wait to hear it…….

Did you not get some chew toy you wanted?    You seem very emotionally invested into the hate anything Trump phenomenon.

[vonclod]

What is the right way? When someone does the right thing and does something about the growing problems. They come up against corruption. Then those doing nothing sit back  armchair quarterbacking.

Obama deported plenty..how did he do it?

You have a game show host as a president, he wants everything to be a spectacle, maybe less spectacle?? Masked goons ain't the way..IMO

[Truthhurts]

Certainly, this information comes from a single source and lacks supporting evidence. It remains unverified and is based solely on the assertion of one individual from the right. If I am mistaken, then provide me with concrete evidence to demonstrate my error, and I will accept that I am wrong.

I was mistaken, as there are now several sources available.

[DBCowboy]

 

And non-US citizens can't vote as far as im aware in your nation.

 

Here's how they get around that.

Illegals are counted in the census.  The census determines House "seats"  

It's why Biden pushed illegals in toss-up states.  To increase House seats for the left and turn states totally blue (evil leftist).