3rd shooting in Minnesota.

[vonclod]

Or sometimes never, as in the Vegas Mandalay Bay incident...

Yes, there you go, it's a process and seldom a quick one.

[David64]

So, are you suggesting that it is valid to just make up whatever we want, because the dataset might possibly not include absolutely every instance?

What about the vast majority of instances where the data was captured?

I looked through some of the states on that site and sometimes as few as 52% of law enforcement agencies reported their stats.

If you don't have all the data, you can't come to an accurate conclusion.

[Knows]

There's nuance involved here, for "many", it's not that it's being done, more how its being done. Obama manage to deports lots of people without armed goon squads..at least not like we are seeing. 

As for being a foreigner, I live in your "51st" state, your dear leader like to proclaim about. F that disrespect right off the bat!
And no, not really a fan of my govts out of control immigration policies ..over the last 5 years in particular. Our population has increased by well over 10% in 4-5 years with no regard to infrastructure(big problem). So, not a fan of my govt either. So, I do do get trying to get a handle on things, but this is not the way..imo.

What is the right way? When someone does the right thing and does something about the growing problems. They come up against corruption. Then those doing nothing sit back  armchair quarterbacking.

[Oldcarpy2]

Here are the facts based on US Supreme Court Cases and why cops can, have, and will shoot unarmed suspects to DEATH, and it remains legal.

Yes, even if they had a license to carry a firearm, just like Alex Pretti.

Bottom Line Up Front
If an officer reasonably believes a suspect is armed or poses an imminent threat, the shooting can be constitutional, even if the suspect turns out to be unarmed.

U.S. SUPREME COURT CASES

Tennessee v. Garner (1985)
The court held deadly force is unconstitutional UNLESS the officer has probable cause TO BELIEVE the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm.

Graham v. Connor (1989)
Under the ruling, the reasonableness of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, NOT with the benefit of hindsight.

Factors include the severity of the suspected crime, whether the suspect poses an immediate threat, and whether the suspect resists or attempts to flee.

Plumhoff v. Rickard (2014)
In this case, the suspect wasn't even armed! He was driving at a high rate of speed in excess of 100 mph after fleeing a traffic stop.

Once the suspect and his passenger were cornered and attempted to flee, officers fired 15 shots into the vehicle. Killing both the driver and the passenger.

The court ruled officers reasonably believed the suspect posed a deadly threat.

Kisela v. Hughes (2018)
An officer shot and killed a woman holding a knife who refused several lawful orders to drop the knife. As the woman moved closer to a female bystander, the officer shot and killed the suspect.

Alex Pretti was a dumb chump who thought his ideology was above the law and armed himself before committing felonies and ultimately suicide by cop.
He had, just a week ago, gotten his rib broken in an altercation with cops.
That dude was spiraling.

Thanks for your learned legal opinion.

I will give it any due respect, Counsellor Google.

[Vermilion]

There's nuance involved here, for "many", it's not that it's being done, more how its being done. Obama manage to deports lots of people without armed goon squads..at least not like we are seeing. 

As for being a foreigner, I live in your "51st" state, your dear leader like to proclaim about. F that disrespect right off the bat!
And no, not really a fan of my govts out of control immigration policies ..over the last 5 years in particular. Our population has increased by well over 10% in 4-5 years with no regard to infrastructure(big problem). So, not a fan of my govt either. So, I do do get trying to get a handle on things, but this is not the way..imo.

Have you tried offering them $1000, a free airline ticket home AND eligibility to come back as a legal citizen?
If so, how did that work out?
In the meantime, are you’re enjoying the rape and murder by people who aren’t even supposed to be in your country?

[WallFlowerActive]

You seem to be obsessive.

How many times do I have to tell you, I. Don't. Know.

How could I?

"Filed", not "filled".

You mean you believe allegations of Gestapo on hearsay when there is supposed to be people documenting ICE’s ever move in Minneapolis?  Lol

The answer is obvious.  They aren’t there to “legally observer”.  They are there to agitate under false pretenses.  It’s pretty obvious.

[Knows]

So, are you suggesting that it is valid to just make up whatever we want, because the dataset might possibly not include absolutely every instance?

What about the vast majority of instances where the data was captured?

What race has the highest crime rate in the US? Overall, black Americans are arrested at 2.6 times the per-capita rate of all other Americans, and this ratio is even higher for murder (6.3 times) and robbery (8.1 times).Which race has the highest conviction rate? There are minimal racial differences in conviction rates. The percent receiving favorable dispositions is slightly higher among Black individuals regardless of prior felony conviction status. Declines to prosecute also are higher for Black and Hispanic individuals.

[chr0naut]

I seem to recall attempts to send Federal law enforcement in to assist high-crime cities that weren't adequately addressing the problem of violence. The Democrats fought tooth and nail. ICE has been the only Federal authority they haven't (yet) been able to thwart that is attempting to deal with violent criminals. Yes, their purview is limited to immigration violations and illegal immigrants. But it seems to me like you're now claiming that it is Trump who is choosing to leave the larger problem unaddressed? C'mon.

The problem was that those locations in actual crime statistics were showing a downturn in crime, so they were actually doing OK in dealing with crime. And there were other places genuinely experiencing high crime, but they weren't Democrat, so no extra Feds.

But a few outrageous headlines, and the mind of someone who totally believes what he just made up...

[WallFlowerActive]

What race has the highest crime rate in the US? Overall, black Americans are arrested at 2.6 times the per-capita rate of all other Americans, and this ratio is even higher for murder (6.3 times)

The one that is hard to get around concerning black Americans and murder are most murders are black on black.

[Oldcarpy2]

You mean you believe allegations of Gestapo on hearsay when there is supposed to be people documenting ICE’s ever move in Minneapolis?  Lol

The answer is obvious.  They aren’t there to “legally observer”.  They are there to agitate under false pretenses.  It’s pretty obvious.

You again?

"To Legally observer"?

Is English not your first language?

I have answered you already.  Several times.

But no more.