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3rd shooting in Minnesota.
(01-27-2026, 05:05 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Only with cleaning up his mess.

It’s a good shoot and by all accounts, lawful.

Glad he didn’t have kids.

Lawful I could maybe see in front of a grand jury.

Saying that mag dumping a dude in the back who is face down showing his hands and unarmed is not a good shoot though.

A good shoot is someone points a gun at you and you neutralize a threat. This was at best, a horrible accident.

I think it's interesting when people believe they're a good soldier for taking the absolute extreme version of any view on their side. Sometimes I even wonder if they're secretly a plant by someone on the other side, because it's far more damaging than doing any good. You see the same thing on the left, people take absolute bonker views of abortion and trans stuff that doesn't align with most people in the population. It shows how ridiculous the tribalism can be.
(01-27-2026, 05:09 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: That’s not what I posted at all.  The guy made a claim “ICE was chasing a family”?  Where is the video.  Where is the video from other supposed legal observers.  Why isn’t the ACLU and any other law firms suing.  Supposedly armies of “legal observers” on the streets.  Where are the lawsuits.



How should I know?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(01-27-2026, 04:48 PM)chr0naut Wrote: I was not basing it on all crimes, just on murders.

However you are correct in that Caucasians are around 60% of the population.

Here's a breakdown of crimes by etnicity which shows that crimes by the people of the ethnicity that ICE target, are vanishingly small:

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Source

Clearly the ethnic bias of ICE's mandate is not warranted on the basis of actual statistical data - It is the consequence of a leadership pandering to, and wilfully misinforming, the unsupported assumptions of racists.


Well....many Democrat and some Republican cities don't send reports to the FBI database and unreported or unprosecuted crime do not equal lack of crime.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/...to-the-fbi
Quote:Many criminologists fear the missing data means reliable crime rates will be unavailable later this decade. When local police departments don’t report data to the FBI, examining local crime trends or comparing rates in different communities becomes impossible.
Then what are the legal observers doing with all the video they are getting?  I would think many people would be interested in all the videos if ICE was acting like actual unchecked gestapo.  What we get is extremists agitating ICE agents then trying to play innocent.
(01-27-2026, 05:11 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Lawful I could maybe see in front of a grand jury.

Saying that mag dumping a dude in the back who is face down showing his hands and unarmed is not a good shoot though.

A good shoot is someone points a gun at you and you neutralize a threat. This was at best, a horrible accident.

I think it's interesting when people believe they're a good soldier for taking the absolute extreme version of any view on their side. Sometimes I even wonder if they're secretly a plant by someone on the other side, because it's far more damaging than doing any good. You see the same thing on the left, people take absolute bonker views of abortion and trans stuff that doesn't align with most people in the population. It shows how ridiculous the tribalism can be.



It’s as bonkers as bringing a pistol with him to obstruct law enforcement(who is upholding bipartisan immigration law) and then thinking it’s a good idea to get physically involved so much so that now he’s being arrested and he thinks resisting arrest is the next good idea.
All of this just one week after he got his rib cracked doing a similar thing.
That time he wasn’t armed.
What made him think that having a pistol would improve the results of his next encounter?

Dumbfuckery.

His ideology got him there.
Nobody else.
(01-27-2026, 05:20 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Then what are the legal observers doing with all the video they are getting?  I would think many people would be interested in all the videos if ICE was acting like actual unchecked gestapo.  What we get is extremists agitating ICE agents then trying to play innocent.


How would anyone on here know?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(01-27-2026, 11:29 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I wasn't comparing Nazism to America's right-wing, I was comparing the use of propaganda to weaponize certain people or groups after Member David quoted Goebbels. (this was a tactic Goebbels used)
I just found it funny seeing someone use a Nazi quote like that.

Acceptable loses tend to be used in war scenario's, not in context of controlling people demonstrating.

ive seen you do it before though, the last part was just about conflict resolution. You can apply tactics to any situation, thats what tactics are for. I thought it was obvious I was applying the term acceptable losses in drawing lines in the sand *like political party lines* not to demonstrations, that wouldn't make any sense. Why would you think an irrational thought.
(01-27-2026, 05:23 PM)Vermilion Wrote: It’s as bonkers as bringing a pistol with him to obstruct law enforcement(who is upholding bipartisan immigration law) and then thinking it’s a good idea to get physically involved so much so that now he’s being arrested and he thinks resisting arrest is the next good idea.
All of this just one week after he got his rib cracked doing a similar thing.
That time he wasn’t armed.
What made him think that having a pistol would improve the results of his next encounter?

Dumb****ery.

His ideology got him there.
Nobody else.

I doubt he brought a pistol with the intention of disrupting law enforcement :p and just because he wasnt armed once doesnt mean hes never been armed
(01-27-2026, 04:48 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Here's a breakdown of crimes by etnicity which shows that crimes by the people of the ethnicity that ICE target, are vanishingly small:

Clearly the ethnic bias of ICE's mandate is not warranted on the basis of actual statistical data - It is the consequence of a leadership pandering to, and wilfully misinforming, the unsupported assumptions of racists.


You disingenuously wish to suggest they are being targeted because of their ethnicity rather than their status.
(01-27-2026, 03:10 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: In fact.  Where is his video of the incident and video from all the other supposed “legal observers”?

crazy huh to pass up a lawsuit…
For the sake of argument
How do you know that a lawsuit wasn't in the works?? or planned??



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