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3rd shooting in Minnesota.
(01-27-2026, 04:32 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Accountability works both ways.

Let's see how the investigation goes when the body cam footage is reviewed.

If it ever will be.

Of course it does but he and he alone is accountable for his actions.   He put himself in harm’s way, no one else.
(01-27-2026, 04:49 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Just don’t conflate your “rights”.   He has the right to peacefully assemble, he has no right to impede or interfere with active law enforcement operations.  That’s where his rights ended and theirs began.



He also has the right not to be murdered for any of that.

His rights "ended"?

No.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(01-27-2026, 04:52 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Of course it does but he and he alone is accountable for his actions.   He put himself in harm’s way, no one else.



The ICE agents are accountable too
  Are they not?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(01-27-2026, 04:54 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: He also has the right not to be murdered for any of that.

His rights "ended"?

No.

Wrong. Think about it for awhile. I’m not going to reiterate what’s already been said here over n over.  If you need, maybe go back through the thread, there you’ll find the answer more than once.
(01-27-2026, 04:23 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: It his fault, no one else put him there but himself.  Jeeez it’s no wonder y’all have no understanding of the word accountability.


Right, that must be why Taco decided to start playing nice.

It  had nothing to do with the Republicans threatening an investigation into ICE's tactics.

Since the plan was to create as much chaos as possible for tv ratings its a miracle more people weren't killed.
(01-27-2026, 04:55 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: The ICE agents are accountable too
  Are they not?

Yes, they should be.
(01-27-2026, 04:49 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Just don’t conflate your “rights”.   He has the right to peacefully assemble, he has no right to impede or interfere with active law enforcement operations.  That’s where his rights ended and theirs began.

Still has the right to a fair trial.

I think it’s pretty simple. We can say what happened was likely an accident, but it was still bad. Whether or not he did things to put himself in that situation, unless he pulled the gun, there is no reason he should have been mag dumped in the back while he was face down showing hands.

It’s really that simple. We have a long history as a nation with civil disobedience. We can charge and prosecute that. But the second we say someone had it coming and getting shot execution style, it makes it harder when we say our justification for going into Iran is because they kill protesters.

Obviously the numbers are far far different, but it doesn’t help that we support more dicatorships than democracies in the Middle East.

See, principles aren’t really flexible. We believe in certain rights or we don’t. We can’t pick and choose who has them, or else it’s all just a facade anyways. This is evident with partisans when the other party gets in office. See, the right will have no problem calling out violations of rights then, but we won’t hear that now. Even though this isn’t the only case where rights are put into question.
(01-27-2026, 04:55 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: The ICE agents are accountable too
  Are they not?



Only with cleaning up his mess.

It’s a good shoot and by all accounts, lawful.

Glad he didn’t have kids.
(01-27-2026, 04:08 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Have you ever had a broken rib?

It's fairly debilitating .

Yet you criticise him for not filing a law suit in a week?



Carry on.

That’s not what I posted at all.  The guy made a claim “ICE was chasing a family”?  Where is the video.  Where is the video from other supposed legal observers.  Why isn’t the ACLU and any other law firms suing.  Supposedly armies of “legal observers” on the streets.  Where are the lawsuits.
(01-27-2026, 05:01 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Right, that must be why Taco decided to start playing nice.

It  had nothing to do with the Republicans threatening an investigation into ICE's tactics.

Since the plan was to create as much chaos as possible for tv ratings it’s a miracle more people weren't killed.

You’re unhinged dude.  You think republicans are the ones inciting the violence for ratings?
If you think that you’re not paying any attention whatsoever.   

Of course there’s going to be investigations.   

like it or not ICE is a necessary evil.  Especially after potato head flooded the country with 20 million illegals, probably Trumps fault too, right?



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