Release All Files! - Part 1

[WallFlowerActive]

The Epstein law was a federal laws.  I’m betting it has no jurisdiction over state grand juries.  So, anything from state related grand juries might be another reason for mass redactions.

[andy06shake]

Hmm.

Why didn’t the Epstein act form a third party / commission to take charge of the release of the documents.

If there was anything that was useful against Trump the Biden administration with James Comey's daughter as a federal prosecutor on the Epstein case would have released / leaked that information.

Face it, it’s political theatrics where it’s just a political football at this point.

Is the redactions over the top?  The law still requires protections for victims.

The majority of victims want the information to come out, so....

As to the redactions, they just speak volumes. 

Hiding the truth, will more than likely equate to worse than the actual truth, if such a thing is possible.

[WallFlowerActive]

The majority of victims want the information to come out, so....

Still have to follow the law where the Epstein federal file law might have no jurisdiction over evidence and grand juries at the state level.

Where the law should have not been lazy and established a commission that could have used past prosecutors that worked the Epstein case like Comey’s daughter for example.
 

As to the redactions, they just speak volumes. 

Hiding the truth, will more than likely equate to worse than the actual truth, if such a thing is possible.

Or just the DOJ acting as best they can from a feel good law that’s at odds with other established laws with standing at the state level and victims rights.

It’s not right they have to put that much effort in to this, but it’s how the legal system and media works. The victims can fill lawsuits and make depositions with the federal legislature if they have accounts of wrongs by people of power. If there was something there, lots of lawyers would take on the case. Momentum is on the victim’s side right now.

[andy06shake]

Still have to follow the law where the Epstein federal file law might have no jurisdiction over evidence and grand juries at the stare level.

Where the law should have not been lazy and established a commission that could have used past prosecutors that worked the Epstein case like Comey’s daughter for example.
 

Or just the DOJ acting as best they can from a feel good law that’s at odds with other established laws with standing at the state level and victims rights.

It’s not right they have to put that much effort in to this, but it’s how the legal system and media works. The victims can fill lawsuits and make depositions with the federal legislature if they have accounts of wrongs by people of power. If there was something there, lots of lawyers would take on the case. Momentum is in the victim’s side right now.

Another thing that's "not right" is the DOJ missing the deadline to release all unclassified Epstein investigation records.

They are simply putting rocks in their pockets and heading out into open water.

And if there was nothing there, it would not be hidden. 

Additonally your argument misunderstands jurisdiction and procedure.

Federal law governs DOJ actions, state-level grand juries aren't blocked by it.

[WallFlowerActive]

Another thing that's "not right" is the DOJ missing the deadline to release all unclassified Epstein investigation records.

They are simply putting rocks in their pockets and heading out into open water.

And if there was nothing there, it would not be hidden. 

Did the Epstein law make funding available to increase manpower to help with the timeline? Laws often set unrealistic targets and goals. It’s not the workers in the trenches fault for bad laws.

[andy06shake]

The Epstein law was a federal laws.  I’m betting it has no jurisdiction over state grand juries.  So, anything from state related grand juries might be another reason for mass redactions.

That's obvious and irrelevant.

Federal law applies to federal records.

But state grand jury materials are already protected.

Redactions aren't an excuse to withhold unrelated federal evidence.

The DOJ is obligated to release what the statute covers, not invent excuses.

[WallFlowerActive]

Federal law governs DOJ actions, state-level grand juries aren't blocked by it.

Do you under the separation of state and federal laws and the legal system.  A US president can only pardon people that are convicted at the federal level.  US presidents cannot pardon people with state convictions.

You have any source to cite and establish law the federal Epstein law has any jurisdiction over state controlled evidence and state held grand juries and their proceedings.

[andy06shake]

Did the Epstein law make funding available to increase manpower to help with the timeline? Laws often set unrealistic targets and goals. It’s not the workers in the trenches fault for bad laws.

Now you are just misframing the responsibility.

"The Epstein Files Transparency Act" imposed a legal requirement.

And the DOJ has discretion to allocate resources to reassign staff.

Blaming "workers in the trenches" ignores the obligation to follow the law.

Legal deadlines are enforceable regardless of internal staffing.

The law's about transparency, not bureaucratic convenience.

"Fiat justitia ruat caelum" 

[WallFlowerActive]

Redactions aren't an excuse to withhold unrelated federal evidence.

The DOJ is obligated to release what the statute covers, not invent excuses.

That’s you opinion and the politicians using the situation as a political football.  Again, the law should have made a commission to oversee this crap show.  Increased manpower to help meet deadlines and oversight.
 
The us legislature has a had habit of making bad laws that violate older laws with standing.

Do you have any evidence than character assassination that the DOJ is doing anything other than trying to balance a lazy feel good law with established long standing law.

[SteamyAmerican]

Not happening. Here’s your crumbs now eat. Be grateful.

Too many from both sides and too many that control the strings to let this see the light of day. We’d demand heads to roll. And be right to do so. So yeah. Ain’t happening.

we’ll get aliens from Planet X before this in its totality.

This timeline sucks and this is our reality. Obfuscation and tax dollars at work right here.

Deal.