Who Will be the Next Pope.....

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

ah that's the stuff... spicy sedevacantian seeth...

let's at least let him get used to the redshoes and penishat before we get the knives out eh?

Yeah, but it does seem like this was a pointed and somewhat expedited concensus pick.  And the motivation may be a line in the sand of sorts. 

I jokingly mentioned McElroy because I thought they would counter Trump's America with their choice. Like they'd pick the cardinal most critical of harsh immigration policy and open to reform. 

*SNIP*

While ULC isn't affiliated, I am now UU, which is non-trinitarian, non-dogmatic, and nothing says we still can't revere and incorporate archetypes of compassionate saviors, and wonder what the hell happened to the emphasis on Matthew 25:31-46, morally speaking. 

*SNIP*
I feel that is the reason for this pick.

[putnam6]

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Just asking non-confrontational questions...

Is there really a huge difference in the personality and policies of Popes? Don't they all operate within somewhat narrow parameters

Isn't the Pope's and the Catholic Church's influence waning? Not only in America but Canada and Europe? 

Still with that type of support, wouldn't it make a full-court Project 2025 push highly unlikely for Trump?

As an ordained minister, how do you prefer to be addressed?

[sahgwa]

Then they should sell off the Vatican archives to museums. A win win for everyone.

Eye vant all zee banned magic bookz

[quintessentone]

Eye vant all zee banned magic bookz

They are saying this Pope knows how to govern and will fix the financial issues.

[sahgwa]

They are saying this Pope knows how to govern and will fix the financial issues.

The pope smokes dope

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

As an ordained minister, how do you prefer to be addressed?

I prefer, "A Person who went online and filled out a form like 25 million others, paid for a kit, and put my knowledge to good use." I am a minister, but don't need a title. Some can choose Reverend too.

I am not a minister in the UUA, it is just the "demonination" (in the framework) of my personal ministry ordained by the ULC. Which ANYONE can do. Even you, right now, in 5 minutes, for free. 

A full on ministry could be estaished, but I don't want to lead a congregation of my own and there are a crap load of hoops to make it legit. 
 
You need a written vision and mission. A congregation. A legal structure, application to The UUA (if inclined), and patience for bureaucracy. 

But I have read almost every major religious text on earth though. Christians are missing out not reading The Avesta, and a UU styled demonination allows me to use anything I want in my self-determined message. Which is Deism-Science based, and has its own answer for the spirit of humility that writes almost ALL religious texts. 

I think people are choosing to leave organized religion, but not god(s), and go more towards new age ULC stuff like myself.  And a Pope more in that feared "one world/one love" spirit is more likely to be supported by freak universalists like me.

[quintessentone]

The pope smokes dope

Pics or it didn't happen.

[UltraBudgie]

Yeah, but it does seem like this was a pointed and somewhat expedited concensus pick.  And the motivation may be a line in the sand of sorts. 

I jokingly mentioned McElroy because I thought they would counter Trump's America with their choice. Like they'd pick the cardinal most critical of harsh immigration policy and open to reform. 

*Removed*

While ULC isn't affiliated, I am now UU, which is non-trinitarian, non-dogmatic, nothing says we still can't revere and incorporate archetypes of compassionate saviors, and wonder what the hell happened to the emphasis on Matthew 25:31-46, morally speaking. 

*Removed*

I feel that is the reason for this pick.

well put and i suspect correct. there is an excluded middle, politically and morally, on the issue of immigration. being against xenophobia and cruelty can simply be what it is, being against xenophobia and cruelty, without being part of some nefarious global agenda. and reading the new pope's speech, its heartening to see jesus quoted immediately, something some critics never seem to do. i know the church has to find some kind of middle ground, but part of me wishes for a strong matthew 7 stance, naming names and pointing fingers, calling out the ravenous wolves. probably won't happen, might not be in the cause of peace, but ah this is a spiritually thirsty time.

[DontTreadOnMe]

Pope Leo's first speech's message:

"In his first speech as pontiff, he said the church should “build bridges” and “welcome everyone”.

So much for welcoming everyone!
The first American pope,  born and raised in the USA state of Illinois, and he cannot say anything in his first speech to welcome English speaking faithful.
Only Italian, Spanish and Latin.

[quintessentone]

So much for welcoming everyone!
The first American pope,  born and raised in the USA state of Illinois, and he cannot say anything in his first speech to welcome English speaking faithful.
Only Italian, Spanish and Latin.

Is that how it will be going forward...disregard the message because it's delivery isn't to one's liking?

Follow him on X if you want English.