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There is no 'Disclosure,'
'Disclosure' is a game played by the governments to disseminate, sift, and digest information that they are not in control of, so that they can have the semblance of control.
Disclosure happened a century ago when some kind of veil was ripped open and people started having more of these experiences.
There are ties to the Faery tradition, there are ties to the occult and magick, there are ties to nuts and bolts creatures, but in my humble opinion the most serious ties are to the Afterlife.
The GOV cannot control the astral nor the afterlife, nor the 'lives' of ETs. So they string you along to get you to 'subscribe' to their thought process and be under their 'spell.'
The best thing one can do is stop paying attention to 'ex' Intel agents and any government official who tells you anything about the UFO phenomenon, because they are on the outside.
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(03-10-2025, 05:06 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Disclosure happened a century ago when some kind of veil was ripped open and people started having more of these experiences.
There are ties to the Faery tradition, there are ties to the occult and magick, there are ties to nuts and bolts creatures, but in my humble opinion the most serious ties are to the Afterlife.
Does ET somehow amplify the other, or is ET caused by it? Can't deny the two goes together. The nuts and bolts operates somehow and does not follow the laws we know, most people don't want to think about the implications of that. Just how we don't really care how a computer works and accept the invisible stuff does something.
Most baulk at thinking about bending time and space, it sounds fun when you think about star trek, but when grandpa pops out of it too because it's the same thing then there are issue.
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Time is an illusion and so is matter; these entities interact with the world of the dead, because they are outside of form. They can go into matter at will. Therefore they relate to the astral plane and nonphysical, the dead, as well as quantum physics. They exist outside of the human race. We influence them and they influence us.
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(03-10-2025, 07:13 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Time is an illusion and so is matter; these entities interact with the world of the dead, because they are outside of form. They can go into matter at will. Therefore they relate to the astral plane and nonphysical, the dead, as well as quantum physics. They exist outside of the human race. We influence them and they influence us.
So extra-dimensional? but is there one form or multiple intelligences? so many questions think Ive asked you before is there a book or link about this aspect?
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(03-10-2025, 07:22 PM)putnam6 Wrote: So extra-dimensional? but is there one form or multiple intelligences? so many questions think Ive asked you before is there a book or link about this aspect?
So many books .
In my opinion there are many different intelligences.
We even have the US GOV pretending they are grey aliens.
The GOV wants to stay 'on top' even though they control nothing.
My favourite books are everything written by
John Keel
Jacques Vallee
Whitley Strieber
:)
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(03-10-2025, 12:49 PM)Adonsa7100 Wrote: Hi Pianopraze,
Looking for ranking (ie best to worst) of governments' quality of disclosure...
This Belief in Aliens is useful, however,
There used to be a website (or search engine searches misconstrue the search arguments) that ranks from best to worst, governments' quality of UFO disclosure.
Thanks for indulging all this.
I don’t have knowledge of such a website.
Ronny…er V, I forget his last name is Brazilian UFOlogist and he says Brazil is a mixed bag depending on who’s in charge at the time, the swing from full disclosure to very bad.
I’m agnostic - I both believe and don’t believe at the same time tracing the threads both ways and constantly weighing more towards one or the other, often leaning one way or the other depending on the incident, so I can hold both at the same time. My brain is weird, hard to describe.
(03-10-2025, 03:01 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Website says it will be released on Netflix or Amazon. Which is nice because it will be free if you have a subscription. However, we have no clue when it will be released to the public. I’d pay for the damn thing right now….
Yeah, take the Amazon release with a pinch of salt. I hinted at that in my op. That is not confirmed but it is a current rumor.
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(03-10-2025, 07:34 PM)sahgwa Wrote: So many books .
In my opinion there are many different intelligences.
We even have the US GOV pretending they are grey aliens.
The GOV wants to stay 'on top' even though they control nothing.
My favourite books are everything written by
John Keel
Jacques Vallee
Whitley Strieber
:)
Yeah I remember now Ive listened to Communion and need to find a good listen from Jacques Vallee looking at The Invisible College which seems to be exactly what you were talking about. wild stuff
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
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But change is
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Vallee
Passport to Magonia
Messengers of Deception
Strieber
Super Natural
Solving the Communion Enigma
Keel
The Seventh Tower
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(03-10-2025, 07:13 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Time is an illusion and so is matter; these entities interact with the world of the dead, because they are outside of form. They can go into matter at will. Therefore they relate to the astral plane and nonphysical, the dead, as well as quantum physics. They exist outside of the human race. We influence them and they influence us.
Einstein thought time was a illusion. I buy that time travel is possible, forward and backward. I even believe some of the aliens/things are undetectable by current means. But I don't think they are talking with or visiting the dead, unless they are part of the best explanation, I have found for life.
Meaning they are the creators of this simulation/construct. My belief is we are not from this construct/simulation. We only agreed to be part of it, when you die or game over, they will try and convince you to return/reincarnated. But you can refuse, and be returned to our home/universe. Or at least I hope lol.
Up until now I have always viewed them as part of this construct, I think it is far more complicated than a simulation. But it could be they are the creators of it. I saw a UFO up close and my life has been unbelievably bizarre. I have also seen what they call the lady in white. A female looking, spirit kinda, floating semi transparent, thing. Come through my door knelt by my head at my bed and said. Thank you for all you do. I was paralyzed but I could speak and see. I was pretty pissed off that I could not move, and growled out. What in the hell is it exactly that I do! It just turned around and floated back through the door. Then I could move. I got up checked inside and outside, found nothing.
But it's like there is something just beyond detection, that influences events in my life. And not necessarily in a good way.
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(03-10-2025, 10:03 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Einstein thought time was a illusion. I buy that time travel is possible, forward and backward. I even believe some of the aliens/things are undetectable by current means. But I don't think they are talking with or visiting the dead, unless they are part of the best explanation, I have found for life.
Meaning they are the creators of this simulation/construct. My belief is we are not from this construct/simulation. We only agreed to be part of it, when you die or game over, they will try and convince you to return/reincarnated. But you can refuse, and be returned to our home/universe. Or at least I hope lol.
Up until now I have always viewed them as part of this construct, I think it is far more complicated than a simulation. But it could be they are the creators of it. I saw a UFO up close and my life has been unbelievably bizarre. I have also seen what they call the lady in white. A female looking, spirit kinda, floating semi transparent, thing. Come through my door knelt by my head at my bed and said. Thank you for all you do. I was paralyzed but I could speak and see. I was pretty pissed off that I could not move, and growled out. What in the hell is it exactly that I do! It just turned around and floated back through the door. Then I could move. I got up checked inside and outside, found nothing.
But it's like there is something just beyond detection, that influences events in my life. And not necessarily in a good way.
As far as I can tell the phenomena doesn't want to be understood, it's just prompting us to stay open minded. Like it's saying, "hello, i'm here". It's weird.
Also hard to convince people what they see is an illusion, my advice would just be to chill out and investigate whatever presents itself at the moment and not take it as gospel. Record your theories as they change over time and they should.
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