Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

From your first source, which you either didn't read, or chose to be disengenuos about:

"Q3: So, what happened to the “missing” $100 billion?

A3: The short answer is that it is not missing. The funds went (mostly) to activities that arose because of the war, and all are accounted for. Some paid for sending equipment and funds directly to Ukraine. A large part went to activities that arose because of the war but were not spent in Ukraine. To see why this is the case, it is important to look at the funding as a whole".

The source explains all this.

You might like to read and digest it.

Zelensky is not saying what you claim he is.

[sahgwa]

From your first source, which you either didn't read, or chose to be disengenuos about:

"Q3: So, what happened to the “missing” $100 billion?

A3: The short answer is that it is not missing. The funds went (mostly) to activities that arose because of the war, and all are accounted for. Some paid for sending equipment and funds directly to Ukraine. A large part went to activities that arose because of the war but were not spent in Ukraine. To see why this is the case, it is important to look at the funding as a whole".

The source explains all this.

You might like to read and digest it.

Zelensky is not saying what you claim he is.

Or IS he?! :D

This reminds me of the fraud that DOGE is uncovering
'

• Humanitarian aid: Aid to relieve suffering because of the war. Mostly done through nongovernmental organizations in Europe for Ukrainian refugees, though some is spent in the United States and Ukraine. Some of the budget is also spent on global food relief. About $3 billion has gone to international development, unrelated to the war.
  
• Economic: U.S. funds are provided to the Ukrainian government through the World Bank to make up for lost tax revenues and to keep governmental services operating.
  
• Other U.S. agencies: Funds for activities in U.S. agencies other than the DOD, Department of State, and USAID, for example, for the Department of the Treasury to enforce sanctions and for the Department of Energy to safeguard nuclear materials.' 
  

Laundering always occurs under clean pretexts, no? like Aid and Government Services. 
Potayto Potahto? 
shrug.

[Oldcarpy2]

Or IS he?! :D

This reminds me of the fraud that DOGE is uncovering
'

• Humanitarian aid: Aid to relieve suffering because of the war. Mostly done through nongovernmental organizations in Europe for Ukrainian refugees, though some is spent in the United States and Ukraine. Some of the budget is also spent on global food relief. About $3 billion has gone to international development, unrelated to the war.
  
• Economic: U.S. funds are provided to the Ukrainian government through the World Bank to make up for lost tax revenues and to keep governmental services operating.
  
• Other U.S. agencies: Funds for activities in U.S. agencies other than the DOD, Department of State, and USAID, for example, for the Department of the Treasury to enforce sanctions and for the Department of Energy to safeguard nuclear materials.' 
  

Laundering always occurs under clean pretexts, no? like Aid and Government Services. 
Potayto Potahto? 
shrug.

Be nice if you might address what I posted rather than shrug it off.

[Maxmars]

It seems to me striking, the pattern of activism, support, defiance, and virtue which intrude into the dialogue from time to time.

Almost like for each side, there is a message, but it is unclear what the message really is.

Sure, clearly the governments of the West virtue-cry "Democracy!" while the object of their sudden affection engages in things very undemocratic...

Russia decries the corruption of others, almost lockstep with the way we do... overlooking her own... which apparently is - at least in this case - what our official leader's cultures considers "normal."

Part of me wants to cling to the fact these are "factions" of governance with power... not only seeking - but conducting armed conflict based upon nothing other than "authority to do so."  They have engendered the death of so many, the destruction of so much... and exactly what has been "corrected" "made just" or "set right?"

Any country other than Russia, and Ukraine are really not the arbiters of what is actually happening to them... in the end there are "actors"... hiding behind the powers of office and stations of society to conduct this "war" that hugely benefits so few - and kills so many... followed by a media frenzy of ideological spewage over it.

Note it's not really the event they seem to talk about, every article in the media is 10% news fact, 25% a characterization of history thus far, 15% entertainment 'effort,' and 50% indoctrinational posturing and framing of memes/phrases/'imagery.'

I decided, when I learned of the grotesque events befalling some Ukraine residents over their "heritage?" or "allegiances" - a disgraceful fascist display of violent oppression... and I thought,

"I get that those particular Ukrainians really hate Russians, but really?
All-out heavy assault in your own country? Artillery??
Whatever the hell the "offense" one clings to about the "Russia" boogeyman, how does one stretch that into "Let's kill all of those people who love Russia as a cultural home?"
That doesn't "ring" the Democracy bell.
Shutting down all media conveyance of disagreement?
Again... not Democratic at all?
The whole... 'friendship' with Americans in power?
Doesn't smell too good at this point.

Followed by the now well-recognized one-sided media blitz about "virtue."  
The patterns of abuse are there... and to even hint at the hazard is always labelled "treacherous."

Ahem.

But you know what?... those thoughts are those of someone far away and removed from that sphere of life... I recognize my ignorance as to what it might mean, generally speaking, or even truly at its' core, to distinguish oneself as "Ukrainian" or "Russian".  It's not really that "It's not my business." or that "I don't care." but I don't trust myself to truly understand the situation of the afflicted - for whom this is supposed to be happening.  Who decides matters more under the lens of motivations and gamesmanship... not those poor people who fight for them... and those in the way.

I am all for relief of suffering and injury for literally anyone who truly needs it.  I am not for "let's kill as many of them as we can," especially if it is followed by laughing about it... as arm-chair quarterbacks often do.  Just a personal thing. 

So very many folks are incapable of being grateful for not knowing the horrors we subject ourselves to during the misuse of diplomacy... war as a "tool made toy."  War for profit and exploitation.  War for media relevancy.  War as a "circus." War as a permanent market presence.  I think, if they knew of war first hand, more people would be crying out for it to end... war is always a human tragedy.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me... but I am at a breakout point in a recent foray into the canyons of cynicism...

The future is coming whether we are right or wrong.

[quintessentone]

Trump will probably give Putin what he wants, that being the lands where lithium deposits lie and wheat (the world's breadbasket) which would make him corner the world markets on those resources - then what of the people? It's all about money. Follow the money.

[sahgwa]

Be nice if you might address what I posted rather than shrug it off.

The bottom line is that you are saying the article says the money is not missing, it went to aid and to other governmental 'uses.'
Isn't it funny that the leader of the country would not know where his own funds went? Rather we have to have some articles justify it for us? 
This also doesn't address money laundering.

[Oldcarpy2]

The bottom line is that you are saying the article says the money is not missing, it went to aid and to other governmental 'uses.'
Isn't it funny that the leader of the country would not know where his own funds went? Rather we have to have some articles justify it for us? 
This also doesn't address money laundering.

The bottom line is that you totally misrepresent what your own source actually says.

Which says nothing about your money laundering agenda.

Which actually says the opposite.

[quintessentone]

Zelensky claims Russia (Putin) bombed the Chernobyl sarcophagus covering the disabled nuclear plant in Ukraine supposedly causing damage but not a full breach, but scientists really don't know the extent. He calls this act a terrorist threat to the entire world.

On May 9, Putin will get Trump standing on Red Square as a prompt (puppet), says Zelensky.

Zelensky believes an armed forces of Europe must be created. 'Real' peace would require security forces being established on countries bordering Russia.

Putin lies and there can be no forward movement without the involvement or Ukraine and Europe in peace talks, Zelensky says.



Bombing of nuclear plant:

[putnam6]

Zelensky claims Russia (Putin) bombed the Chernobyl sarcophagus covering the disabled nuclear plant in Ukraine supposedly causing damage but not a full breach, but scientists really don't know the extent. He calls this act a terrorist threat to the entire world.

On May 9, Putin will get Trump standing on Red Square as a prompt (puppet), says Zelensky.

Zelensky believes an armed forces of Europe must be created. 'Real' peace would require security forces being established on countries bordering Russia.

Putin lies and there can be no forward movement without the involvement or Ukraine and Europe in peace talks, Zelensky says.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZQYSGyK7E]

Bombing of nuclear plant:

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jAlB0_oUY]

Im not saying Russia didn't do the drone attack on the Chernobyl sarcophagus, it's Russia and some dumb azz Crazy Ivan could have easily been stupid enough, BUT

This happening obviously favors Ukraine and Zelensky will play it for all its worth.

It could have easily been set up by Ukraine using a captured Russian drone.

Dont forget Zelensky wanted Article 5 when an errant rocket hit in Poland.

I don't trust Putin or Zelensky

pretty sure he will try and keep the laundromat open for his European customers if at all possible... it might be all he can negotiate with

[quintessentone]

Im not saying Russia didn't do the drone attack on the Chernobyl sarcophagus, it's Russia and some dumb azz Crazy Ivan could have easily been stupid enough, BUT

This happening obviously favors Ukraine and Zelensky will play it for all its worth.

It could have easily been set up by Ukraine using a captured Russian drone.

Dont forget Zelensky wanted Article 5 when an errant rocket hit in Poland.

I don't trust Putin or Zelensky

pretty sure he will try and keep the laundromat open for his European customers if at all possible... it might be all he can negotiate with

Do you mean negotiation with European countries/NATO because he and Europe have no seat at the Trump/Putin bro table.