Pianopraze wrote:

"also on record asking, you know how to tell when a lawyer is lying?"

Same as how to tell when a politician is lying?

(06-07-2025, 05:13 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The queue would be around the block if we are honest.

lol, it’s gotta be somebody he is afraid to snitch on, or afraid to admit kicked his ass

(06-07-2025, 03:25 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Exactly.  The national debt is the real threat to the USA.  And Trump is asking true conservatives to tank their values and vote for the big beautiful bill.  Trump has done lots I agree with.  But this march to insolvency is just insane.  And both sides are to blame.  Tired of the can being kicked down the road.

The national debt is the safety net propping up the USA financial system.

Paying that debt off is not an option.  Musk is a fool if he thinks it is.

(06-07-2025, 11:33 AM)MonkMode Wrote: lol, it’s gotta be somebody he is afraid to snitch on, or afraid to admit kicked his ass

Stranger things than a black eye have been known to happen when mad with the special K.

You dont feel pain properly for a start, especially if you mix it with alcohol.

He might not even know what happened and just woke up that way.................

After all he does claim to go to a lot of ""parties"". ;)

(06-07-2025, 09:24 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Pianopraze wrote:

"also on record asking, you know how to tell when a lawyer is lying?"

Same as how to tell when a politician is lying?

And that is why I hate both Democrats and Republicans. Even some calling themselves "libertarian who somehow got on the ticket this year."

Massie is only one I trust. Rand, Luna and Burchett sometimes, not always.

trump got into office courting libertarians, now he’s burning down the little goodwill he made with us. We’re been roasting the heck out of him on Twitter since he started attacking Massie.

(06-07-2025, 12:03 PM)pianopraze Wrote: And that is why I hate both Democrats and Republicans. Even some calling themselves "libertarian who somehow got on the ticket this year."

Massie is only one I trust. Rand, Luna and Burchett sometimes, not always.

trump got into office courting libertarians, now he’s burning down the little goodwill he made with us. We’re been roasting the heck out of him on Twitter since he started attacking Massie.

I'm pretty much "None of the above" these days.

They all lie , promise the Earth and when elected break their promises.

(06-07-2025, 11:39 AM)MonkMode Wrote: The national debt is the safety net propping up the USA financial system.

Paying that debt off is not an option.  Musk is a fool if he thinks there is.

It’s not just that; the left absolutely did not want him investigating anything. His sole responsibility was to identify wasteful or fraudulent spending. The general public does not need his opinions on a bill, and I find his insinuation that he wasn’t shown the bill completely unacceptable. While I acknowledge what he has accomplished, he has clearly crossed a line. When you consider the drug-related issues, it becomes even more alarming and turns the situation into a liability. Elon’s frustration with the electric vehicle mandate, the NASA appointment, and the bill indicates that he was trying to exert influence after Trump shut it down. Instead of handling it appropriately, he resorted to a petulant, drug-induced tantrum.

It reminded me of one of my Dad's favorite books, as the head of the family business, he used quotes in the book quite effectively on his "Huns."  


LEADERSHIP SECRETS OF ATTILA THE HUN

LOYALTY—Above all things, a Hun must be loyal. Disagreement is not necessarily disloyalty. A Hun who, in the best interest of the tribe, disagrees, should be listened to. On the other hand, a Hun who actively participates in or encourages actions that are counter to the good of the tribe is disloyal. These Huns, whether warrior or chieftain, must be expeditiously removed. Their ability to influence and discourage loyal Huns is a contagious disease. In cases where disloyal actions and attitudes cannot be changed, harsh action must be taken to rid ourselves of those among us who see no value in and subvert our cause.

Never expect your Huns to always be compatible. But expect their differences to be resolvable without the spread of discontent to other areas

The spirit of unity must be a cardinal principle in the ways and attitudes of all Huns. Once divided, we are easily made subject to foreign nations.

A king with chieftains who always agree with him reaps the counsel of mediocrity.

The greatness of a Hun is measured by the sacrifices he is willing to make for the good of the nation.

A chieftain should always rise above pettiness and cause his Huns to do the same.

The problem was that Elon couldn't adapt to being a Hun to a Trump's Chieftain.

What's all this about drugs? Can someone fill me in please?

(06-07-2025, 12:45 PM)KKLoco Wrote: What's all this about drugs? Can someone fill me in please?

He was kind of tweaking a bit in the Oval Office, supposedly Ketamine 


The whole video is pretty good, even for the source. Sounds as if Elon wanted to make it known he wasn't in agreement with everything the administration does, which is fine as an outsider, but looks lousy when you are temping for the administration. 

Talking about the drug begins at 7:40 or so

(06-07-2025, 01:08 PM)putnam6 Wrote: He was kind of tweaking a bit in the Oval Office, supposedly Ketamine 


The whole video is pretty good, even for the source. Sounds as if Elon wanted to make it known he wasn't in agreement with everything the administration does, which is fine as an outsider, but looks lousy when you are temping for the administration. 

Talking about the drug begins at 7:40 or so

[Video: https://youtu.be/ajbZySBmct4?si=pnvwDO-6biL5CKxS]

Thank you! He definitely looks like he's on something. However, I highly doubt it was Ketamine. I did it a handful of times when I was younger. It totally incapacitates you. They call it a 'k hole' for a reason. K is the epitome of a downer. It's virtually impossible to stand up while on it. Your vision drastically changes and you don't have any balance. 

My money would be on some type of upper like cocaine.