(02-06-2026, 12:18 AM)ANNEE Wrote: Utilized by who? 

Where are the rest of the files?

That was supposed to be a response to putnam6

(02-05-2026, 04:19 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I really wouldn't know?

But Mandelson is toast.

Any high profile US peeps being toasted?

I saw Bill Gates out there squirming around and a couple Clintons too. But I see others like Bannon and the Pritzker boys acting way too calm. There is a ton more that should be looked into but it's 3 million files I know I can only personally read so much. But Epstein seems to be the puppet master pulling the strings of the world to make it dance to his delight.

Link

(02-05-2026, 11:34 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Evil is a religious word — I’m atheist. 

I prefer logic over nonsense.

Atheism is just another religion.

(02-06-2026, 04:51 AM)Knows Wrote: Atheism is just another religion.

Exactly! 



@ANNEE - The trick is not to pretend evil doesn't exist but to design systems that make it harder for harm to spread and easier for people to choose the good.

Low empathy can turn dangerous when it mixes with control, resentment, no accountability, access to the vulnerable, and concentrated power.

See that is logic.

(02-05-2026, 04:21 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Why not?

A lot of what he says is just nonsense. He can't finish sentences and changes topic mid-sentence.

You have to edit what he says to get a coherent thought out of him.

Bullshit.    

The BBC selectively edited his speech to make it look like he said something totally opposite of what he actually said.   It was calculated.   It was agenda.   It was false reporting.   It was social engineering.   IT WAS A LIE.    Here you are defending the press lying to people all because you hate Trump.   If they had lied about someone you liked you'd be up in arms about it.    Pretty damn deceitful and disgusting.

(02-05-2026, 04:51 PM)ANNEE Wrote: To be clear the BBC didn’t change Trump’s words. 

It was a splicing edit.

They changed the meaning of what he said.   
Completely turned it upside down.   
It was deceitful and it was full of agenda.  
You are defending the press lying.
All because they lied about someone you hate.

Posted this over on the Nipah thread but there's some pretty wild 'pandemic' material below involving Epstein, Gates and JP Morgan.

Amongst many other things 'the blueprint for a twenty year financial architecture designed to turn pandemics into a profit centre' is being discussed.


"I hope we can pull this off"


From 3:00

(02-05-2026, 10:17 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I’ve never thought Epstein would be the downfall of Trump. I just think its messed up all the people involved were protected to the point of redaction. Heinous possible sexual implications aside, elites and those in power still communicated with him at a disturbing level. Theres instances are dealings that strongly suggest insider trading, espionage, and purposefully crashing economies. He had 8 email addresses, online gaming handles, signal and other forms of communication. This is what we can see, that’s been released.

They’ve all protected this, multiple admins, and people at the highest and middle tiers of government. I’ve never said Trump is unique in this, or the worst of the bunch… just that he’s doing the same thing.

I’ve always thought that the economy would be the downfall of Trump. The stock market has been the only thing that someone could point to as healthy, but right now that’s propped up by tech, and I’ve noted an AI bubble could make that deflate before the last week with a 3% drop in the market. 

He’s got the most debt of any president now. 

I think in a few years we hear a lot of people say they never really supported him. He was just the lesser of two evils. He’ll be like the Bush of history. And people will still continue to vote Republican even though the last two (in the future) will be Bush and Trump who just brought economic chaos, just like the democrats Obama and Biden who print money, cause debt, and add inflation.

The donor class don’t care. Inflation makes their asset prices go up. 

Take a look at average American earning vs inflation. The chart doesn’t really care who’s been in power, they’ve all done the same thing.

The math doesn’t lie. Whether or not we like someone doesn’t change the math.

And his family is openly cashing in on the presidency at the tune of billions. People used to be outraged about speaking fees (rightfully so). Now it’s just happening while we’re making policy, not after there gone, or a crack head son sitting on a board.

Im just not as pessimistic or as pragmatic as you seemingly are about the topic. 



Pretty much anything Trump pulls off as President is likely much better for America than anything Harris/Walz would have enacted if elected. Doesn't excuse Trump's bullshit at all, but those were the choices. 

Need further clarity, continue reading....

Im about the economy, my business/industry, right now, is in flux and not getting the capital investment needed, seems handcuffed, stagnant
It requires LONG-TERM political stability.

After 9/11, the industry grew again to another plateau, splashing innovation and incorporating the internet, growing.  For our niche sector,
we grew under both Dubya and Barry just as we grew under Reagan and Clinton. STABILITY, party doesn't matter to me as much as STABILITY. America won't reach that level of unity or stability anytime soon; it's too divided. Thats probably by design BTW

In a split country and economy, at my age, I'm desperate for a solid, stable 12 months, and really need 5 stable years in the next 8, to
get real traction.  

Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Rosterfarian, I do not care, I need maximum economic growth. Just don't trample on core values to get there.

(02-06-2026, 05:18 AM)LightAngel Wrote: The trick is not to pretend evil doesn't exist but to design systems that make it harder for harm to spread and easier for people to choose the good.

It does sound good, as for the reality in a world of self determination some do push the boundaries If some choose to deny the realty, or accept it as they venture into the unknown, we cannot change that. Our control stops at what we choose to do. we cannot change what happens on the other side of the world. We can change what happen in our own back yard.

It is a big drop, For the current administration to take about a year to get these files out is reasonable with all the work involved. With AI and the decentralized intelligence going on, still going to take a few months to process and oversight.

For now, any who say that there is nothing to see or it is all Russia's fault is on the naughty list. God will sort it eventually, until then, just focus on what we do have control of. Not surprised crypto has crashed as the rats leave the ship, long term it is a good thing.