president Maduro captured after US strikes

[chr0naut]

What a wall of BS. Sorry but I’m not reading it all. Nothing I can say to a programmed bot on the other side of the world that would matter.  You don’t have a clue of what it’s like over here.  Are you telling me these blue cities are safe?
They’re not. Chicago, Memphis, NYC, DC,….are bad, crime went waaaay down when Trump sent people into clean it up.  You’re delusional!

Trump suggests more US cities need National Guard but crime stats tell a different story

[chr0naut]

Regardless of which way her wheels were pointing, the other agent was approaching her car and telling her to get out. He then tried opening her car door while she was reversing backwards. Thatr woman was NOT GOING TO COMPLY and sealed her fate by gunning her car forwards into the other agent at the front of her car who then shot her.
Fait accompli.
The question nobody is asking at this point is why the agent was asking her to vacate her car. There must have been a good reason for it.

Well, he was wearing a uniform and armour, and had a gun. Isn't shouting instruction what they paid him to do?

And you've got to admit, it probably makes Americans feel so safe with all those government minions firing at people.

Judge: "... and why did you blow them away"?
Officer: "Well, they were being, like, you know, all sarcastic and stuff. and they crashed into me and other cars".
Judge: "Do you think it was intentional"?
Officer: "Nah, they was already dead".

[quintessentone]

Well, he was wearing a uniform and armour, and had a gun. Isn't shouting instruction what they paid him to do?

I'm not sure why off topic discussions about the Minneapolis murder are allowed here, are there rules for some but not for others? They aren't police they are untrained for civilian engagement, they are trigger happy immigration agents and just the fact that they have to mask themselves says it all. Not obeying orders, resisting arrest, and fleeing from police is not an automatic reason to murder someone.

Not only is Trump further polarizing US society, but he's also doing it in foreign countries now.

Back on topic.

"Liberation or Occupation?The illusion of U.S. regime change."

"But stable democracy was almost never the result of U.S intervention. Instead, past U.S. administrations left behind weakened institutions, further polarized societies, and a lingering distrust of both local governments and Washington.

"The tragedy is that the U.S. has learned these lessons before, only to forget them again. Liberation by invasion is an illusion. It promises clarity and control in a world that rarely offers either. Venezuela’s future will ultimately be decided not by who captured Maduro, but by whether Venezuelans are allowed and able to build legitimate institutions of their own."

Liberation or Occupation?: News Article - Independent Institute

The U.S. has made the Venezuelan people's lives so much worse.

"The US action made “all States less safe around the world”, said Ravina Shamdasani, spokesperson for the High Commissioner."

"“Accountability for human rights violations cannot be achieved by unilateral military intervention in violation of international law,” she insisted.
 “Far from being a victory for human rights, this military intervention, which is in contravention of Venezuelan sovereignty and the UN Charter, damages the architecture of international security…And this is a point that the Secretary-General has also made.”"

Venezuela’s people must be heard, insists UN human rights chief | UN News

[angelchemuel]

Well, he was wearing a uniform and armour, and had a gun. Isn't shouting instruction what they paid him to do?

And you've got to admit, it probably makes Americans feel so safe with all those government minions firing at people.

Judge: "... and why did you blow them away"?
Officer: "Well, they were being, like, you know, all sarcastic and stuff. and they crashed into me and other cars".
Judge: "Do you think it was intentional"?
Officer: "Nah, they was already dead".

The one wearing the uniform and armour telling her to get out of the car and trying to open the door is not the one that shot her

[chr0naut]

You're still not getting it.   Lots of people say they want the positions but then there are primaries and a process that brings the number down to a reasonable amount for a general election.   You can't have a general election with hundreds of people trying to get the same position.   

You absolutely can. And not everyone is vying for exactly the same role, either.

You also find that those with similar policies can affiliate with each other and compound their numbers with those of similar electees. That is how political parties work.

An example would be our recent 2025 local council elections for the Auckland Council, where voters elected 20 councillors, the mayor of Auckland, and 151 local board members across 21 local boards. Many of those were vying for the mayoral role. Some only for local board positions. All 1.7 million residents didn't seem to have any noted issues with it.

We just read the short bio and policies of the candidates, and decided if we liked them, and we could either number them in order of preference, or we could just tick their party (or independent) 'check box' if we wanted to. All that, for all candidates, can be written out on a single flyer that we could read in less than two or three minutes.

I'd prefer to get the exact people in the specific jobs who will do the things I want there, so I number the ballot form by preference, but that's just me.

They have to be weeded out to make it reasonable.   You can't have televised debates with hundreds of people. 

Mass debates! LOL. However, that can be done, too.

Ours is much like your current system, except we make our own small choices and don't have them made for us by someone else.

You can't have a party paying for commercials on TV for hundreds of people. 

... Just like you can't have commercials for hundreds of brands? You guys are so well conditioned you can't even see it

 That's ridiculous.   The process brings it down to the most wanted people to go against the other most wanted people.

Your process has consistently brought it down to the least wanted people to go against the other least wanted people (who also all suspiciously happen to be very wealthy). It's always been the lesser of two weevils.

[chr0naut]

The one wearing the uniform and armour telling her to get out of the car and trying to open the door is not the one that shot her

What, the other guy was a mime?

[quintessentone]

What, the other guy was a mime?

Witnesses are saying one untrained officer was telling her to get out of the car, while another was telling her to get the car moving to stop blocking the street (when they said that she was stuck in the snow). That is how f**d up they are.

US oil companies dragging their feet because they think this particular location is very risky especially without a regime change and so who will protect their assets?

[FlyersFan]

Witnesses are saying one untrained officer was ...

You lie a lot.  Over and over.
ICE is not 'untrained'.

[WallFlowerActive]

Witnesses are saying one untrained officer was telling her to get out of the car, while another was telling her to get the car moving to stop blocking the street (when they said that she was stuck in the snow). That is how f**d up they are.

Wrong thread.

[quintessentone]

You lie a lot.  Over and over.
ICE is not 'untrained'.

Wrong, again.

"Yes, police officers are trained to avoid positioning themselves in front of cars during traffic stops.

• Officers are instructed to stand on the passenger or driver's side, typically at a distance from the vehicle to ensure safety. 
  
  
• This positioning helps them avoid being in the path of a fleeing vehicle and reduces the risk of injury. 
  
  
• Training emphasizes the importance of being aware of the vehicle's movements and avoiding distractions that could lead to unsafe situations. 
  
  Overall, safety is a top priority for police officers during their duties, and proper training is a key component in achieving this."
  

They are not police, they are trigger happy, violent masked thugs, untrained to deal with citizens exercising their constitutional rights to protest.

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Back on topic.

The people in Venezuela are now under militlary occupation and are being harassed thanks to your demented President.